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I'm about to receive a lot of Harlequins minis so I'm starting to think tactics.
If I read correctly the Experimental Codex, a Venom can carry 6 Harlequins and one IC.
Does this mean a Death Jester can climb in? I think so.
Which brings me to the question. Could one consider using a Death Jester in a Venom to go after tanks? Sure, the Venom is pretty lame concerning armor. But so do the Dark Eldar tanks. Models can shoot out from an open-topped transport.
Basically the DJ serves as a Heavy Weapon for the Venom. I'm thinking especially for the Brightlance-toting DJ.
So I imagine 2 Venoms transporting 6 Troupers + 1 Death Jester. They unload the Troupers somewhere on the field then go tank hunting with the Brightlance DJ still on board.
Good or bad idea? Your commens are welcome!
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You can indeed shoot from ANY vehicle, not just open topped providing there are firing slits etc. (Page 62 BGOriginally posted by Xerxes@Nov 24 2004, 19:41
I LOVE the sound of that! But I've never heard of troops being able to fire out of an open-topped transport before, I'd double-check that.
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However, consider what you are saying..
Death Jester costs 47pts minumum, Venom 45 min
so for 92 points you have a unit that can fire ONCE at BS4
For the same price you could infiltrate a unit of 8 mimes with heywire grenades
which can deploy 12" from a vehicle, move 6 FoF 1-6 assault 6 meaning they will all be able to make grenade attacks. That will almost certainly kill one tank!
Death Jesters are phenomenally overpriced units for what they can do. They only really become good options wise with EldarMissile Launchers and hello!!+15pts per jester - Nasty!
For high points battle sure, go for it you can field plenty jesters. But for anything below 1200 I would forget unless you know there are going to be lots of tanks, and I would still consider the mime-infiltrate-grenade option.
Do not forget your best weapon vs tanks, neuro disrupt them, lmost guaranteed result of no move/fire then heywire them next turn, lovely! auto hit.
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Death Jesters are probabily my favorite unit in the whole Harlequin army, and are probabily the most effective anti tank killer in the game.
Sit them next to a wraithlord so that the bad guys must target the wraithlord (hes a monsterous creature and the DJs are independants) And you have an opponent who will stay out of that lane of fire. I can guarantee it, after one game of playing like that your opponent will keep All of his tanks out of your way, or out of that line of fire. You could have just cut the playing field in half! So if you plan this right you know which side you should put your venom down on so that you can zoom across the board.
That is the method I use and it ever better in team games where you can hide your DJs among simpler imerial guard squads...its the best feeling ever!
Anyways that doesnt really answer your question.
I dont reccomend zooming your DJ around on the venom. If that thing goes down you will most likely die (75% chance of dieing) and even if you survive you will be entangled... so thats a turn of shooting down.
To counter this you could get holofields, but thats 20 more points.... and even so you can still be shot down fairly easy.
What I also do is unload the squad and then the people I play against forget about the venom and I just zoom around and hit rear armor on tanks with my fusion gun. teeheehee
O and once I instant killed my buddies farseer with it hehe. Just because he forgot about it.
O by the way I like that neuro disrupting them and then haywiring them, thats ingenious!
how can you insant kill a farseer with a S6 weapon? they're toughness 4
uh oh... :hmm: :mellow: :o :huh:
thats not good. I just double checked...i guess I have been playing my venom wrong all a long.... oops :wacko: :unsure: o well thank you for letting me know of my error....
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