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elaborate on your poll answers to help me decide which go better with my playing style. thanks.
"War is my master; death my mistress."
- Maugan Ra
personally i think the howling banshees look cooler
"God works in mysterious ways."
"Everything happens for a reason."
I actually have a slug living in YOU, right now...
Slowly will start playing: Iyanden, and Chaos.
Need a 3rd option, stop spamming
How in the world do we know what your playing style is? Wish we could get rid of all these useless threads
LOL so true i hate this stufff, dumb polls.......
But to answer your poll, I think SC are better at hoard armies and SM, but HB are good at heavy units...they die at haords
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As an above post mentioned, we need to know your playing style to truly help you. However, since you play Eldar, it can be assumed that you do like speed a certain amount, the same as I. For me, it was Banshees that are my favorite of the two. Scorpians are great at toe to toe hacking battles, it's true, but that's not what I want my army doing. Banshees have fleet of foot, attack first in the first round of combat(and usually do well after that, thanks to decent initiative) and all carry power weapons. If you really need them across the field fast, put them in a transport to protect them, lay down some fire after you get out, and then charge. With a 6 model squad in a Falcon, including an exarch with powerblades, you get 20 attacks on the charge. That's going to lay the hurt on most squads. And throw the executioner on the exarch, give her acrobatic and you can practically choose where her 3 str. 5 power attacks go. After a round or two of battle, the unit is going to be victorious or dead, but really, with Eldar I don't want my troops in CC for more than a round or two anyway.
It's all up to the zombies now, really.
While not an eldar player, I have faced both of these unit types on several occasions. I play dark angels space marines. While I do not like getting charged by a bunch of scorpions, I downright fear banshees. They get into combat with you in no time and once there they do a LOT of damage in a hurry. Depending on the outcome of this thread, I am going to buy one or the other for a friend of mine. I need to know what the veteran eldar players think first.
<span style='color:green'>Dark Angels</span>: <span style='color:red'>20/3/0</span>
<span style='color:gray'>Daemonhunters: </span> <span style='color:red'>Under Construction</span>
<span style='color:blue'>Minas Tirith</span> <span style='color:red'>1/0/0</span>
Scorps all the way for me. I've been convinced recently to throw one squad of each into my 3,000pt vanilla force, but I've never really been convinced of Banshee utility.
The Scorps are slower, but that's irrelevant with a transport, and they can infiltrate anyway. Banshees may be handy for ignoring armour, but the scorps' S4 helps out big time in the wounding category, their heavy armour makes for much better survivability (escpecially in conjunction with Fortune), and they are generally more adaptable. The Banshees' main strength also becomes much less relevant against lightly armoured foes. Finally, mandiblasters and haywire are great, and with I5 plasma grenades are just as good as banshee masks in virtually every situation.
So, in favour of Banshees: power weapon often useful, faster, cheaper than Scorpion with grenades.
In favour of Scorpions: everything else.
I play too many T4 3+ saves, so Banshees are the way to go IMO.
Games Workshop is the Wal-Mart of hobby products, except for the low prices. The lack of respect and profit mongering is there in spades.
Scorps: OOH yay i have the same strength of a Space muffin! now let me get crushed by my crap toughness..
Banshees: Come out of the webway, charge into a squad in 1 turn and kill em all. Solved. (note: don't charge stuff with invulnerable saves or mass troops... :hmm: )
FROM THE BOOK OF THE IMPERIUM:
1. Thou shalt not go on a panty raid in the Adaptus Soritus temple.
2. Thou shalt not flirt with Howling Banshees. They are the enemy.
3. Thou shalt not refer to Battle Sisters as Bolter Biatches
4. Darth Vader isnâ€™t the son of Abaddon
5. Thou shalt not reassemble a Necron into a washing machine
Well, ripping the Scorpions like that did you no good, because they have better Strength than Banshees, and the same toughness. Also, it's a highly biased description. I could just say:Scorps: OOH yay i have the same strength of a Space muffin! now let me get crushed by my crap toughness..
Banshees: Come out of the webway, charge into a squad in 1 turn and kill em all. Solved.
Banshees: OOH yay i have the less strength of a Space muffin! now let me get crushed by my crap toughness and save.
Scorpions: Come out of the webway, charge into a squad in 1 turn and kill em all. Solved.
But, for the arguements sake, lets have a look at 10 scorpions + Exarch vs 10 marines, then 10 Banshees + Exarch vs 10 marines.
10 mandiblasters, 1/2 hit, 1/2 wound, 1/3 failed saves = 1 dead marine.
27 Scorpion attacks, 1/2 hit, 1/2 wound, 1/3 failed saves = 2 dead marines.
4 Exarch attack, 2/3 hit, 5/6 wound, no saves = 2 dead marines.
5 dead marines total.
Marines strike back with 7 attacks (5 marines remain, but the Exarch would have struck last, meaning 7 marines when they strike back), 1/2 hit, 2/3 wound, 1/3 failed saves = 1 dead Scorpion.
27 Banshee attacks, 1/2 hit, 1/3 wound = 5 dead marines.
3 Exarch attacks (Executioner), 2/3 hit, 2/3 wound = 1 dead marine. (maybe 2)
Marines strike back with 4 attacks, 1/2 hit, 2/3 wound, 1/2 failed saves = 1 dead Banshee.
Ass you can see, Scorpions are not far behind the Banshees, however the Scorpions would stand up to shooting for longer, are slightely cheaper, and can have a lot of useful abilities (anti tank grenades, infiltrate). Also, the Scorpions are far more effective against hordes, and therefore win it out for me. Scorpions are generally better.
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