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    I'm going adress a very uneasy topic. What is the point of railrifles? At first i thought like most of you that wow these guys are really cool. But, the truth is they aren't that different from an Ion cannon! The guns shoot almost the same, taking away from the fact that its 3 guys shooting the rail guns, and you say the range is different but that wouldn't matter because the pathfinders are up front while the Hammerhead is in the back of the army.

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    Hammerhead 80
    Ion cannon +30
    Burst cannons +10
    Total= 130

    Devilfish 80
    Pathfinder+12
    3Pf w/ RR+66
    Total=158

    I look at it this way you choose the pathfinder road were you get one markerlight dude to go w/ your "little warriors of destuction" and the devilfish, of course that having the useless shots of gun drones. But the 3 shots are not quite as good!

    You see the Hammerhead has a BS of 4 making it easier to hit so each of the Ion Cannon's shots are better and the same amount of points.(28 pts for the other pathfinder and drone evens it outright?) I would much rather roll a 3+ then a 4+ thats tons better odds and for 3 shots. The ion cannon to me just seem like it's so much better! Prove me wrong.

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    im using them for the extra marine killing power... the hammerhead with ion cannon would be better but i always use 9 broadsides in every 2000 point game i play.... its like having a mini-hammerhead in my fast attack section.... that is where they are usefull... at least for me... and about thier bad BS... i usally have 4 to 6 firewarrior squads of 6 with markerlights in each group dispersed about the whole board... so theyd hit and would on 2s. most likely....

    I am constantly playing marine/chaos armies... and an occasional eldar.... i think the little dudes are worth it.... especially in the bigger battles..... i usally play 2500
    in bigger battles i need all the firepower i can get... and if i can get it in the fast attack section its all the better.........

    there is nothing wrong with having a hammerhead with ion cannon in my fast attack section........

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    additionally.......... the points cost comparason would come out even..... you may think the hammerhead is cheaper... but....you didnt put proper upgrades on it! how could you forget a multitraker.... i think that is a must on hammerheads.... on mine i put disrution pod and decoy launchers... i always have SMS.... burst cannon isn't good in this case...


    Hammerhead 80
    Ion cannon +30
    SMS+20
    Multi-Tracker +10
    Decoy Launchers + 5
    Disruption Pod +5
    Total= 160

    Devilfish 80
    Pathfinder+12
    3Pf w/ RR+66
    Total=158

    its even in my book.... i always equip my hammerheads like so.... if i use them....

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    If anything it gives you some punch froma fast attack option. It makes the fast attack options a little more interesting to me where I wasnt interested before. It opens up the fast tattack section I think but thats just me.
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    I think there's a reasonable explanation for this. I'd say the game constructors have chosen to add the rail rifle-models (probably mostly because they're so cool) and modelled them cost-wise after the Hammerhead, keeping the tank a bit cheaper than the rail rifle-models. Why would they just add a "super"-unit when they have repeatedly tested and decided to set the cost for the Hammerhead? I think the game constructors are aware of these cost-issues and just realesed the rail rifles as new, cool models - but hey, I'm going to buy 'em!

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    the other thing is that it only takes 1 shot to kill the tank... but you would have to kill more to whipe out all the rail rifles.

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    On the pro side w/ Pathfinders, you only have to expose 66 points to use their firepower. With a Hammerhead all 160+ points are exposed to fire.

    On the con side more weapons can damage Pathfinders and their range is shorter.

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    qwerter4, good point i had never considered high point battles when I had come w/ this idea, mainly because money come easy. But yeah if ever had the chances to play in a 2500 point battle i mean they would almost be a must.

    SockMonkey, it takes a pretty lame shot to kill a pathfinder and takes a considerible shot to take out a hammerhead, so when i wrote this topic i thought that was totally bogus because he two balance each other.
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    Shas'o Va'Suam Sha'i im sorry but i really don't understand what your saying, your saying that you don't have to expose the devilfish and other pathfinder(s) to the board? Or am i jus not thinking today?
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    i dont often play below 2500............. 3000 up is my cup o' tea....... if you examine the tau closely, they actually excell in smaller battles... 1500 they can really conquer...... i dont think small battles are quite as satisfying though........

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