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Hey it occurs to me that you can put five monsterious creatures into a 1000 point hive fleet if you you have 200 point tyrants, and three 180 point carnifex's with two troops of rippers for 30 points per squad...is that even fair? or is there a standard acceptable number of monsterous creatures in an army, and where do most people draw the line? (I typically play one to two thousand point games)
General rule of thumb is 1 TMC per 500pts.
That is exactly my rule of thumb. It is perfectly balanced enough to pack a punch, but not to cheesey. the ultimate cheese is the all ripper army with tons of monstrous creatures and mutations.
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actually an all ripper army is pretty effective if you mutate your rippers right and follow 2 TMC per 800 or 1 per 400 which is same thing
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I myself also follow the 1/500 rule...
Though in games under 750pts I prefer Patrol restrictions, which would mean no TMCs in an army that small.
"The meat things seek to destroy ourselves. They hunt us as we hunt them but they are weak and uncertain. The inferior flesh will be entirely destroyed, all biomatter consumed. Ourselves will fight to the last, all weak flesh must be devoured."
There is no cheese. However, people WILL scream cheese at the top of their lungs, so I would not reccomend doing that. tacitcly, it COULD work, but you really need the other HS slots, for your 'thropes n' 'vores. I personally don't like rippers, I prefer mass horms+spinegants with a few 'stealers thrown in for good measure.
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Man, I love cheese. But who cares? If you can win with it, who cares if you are called cheesy? At least you aren't playing Necrons!Originally posted by Salamander@Jan 19 2005, 11:31
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May the Emperor's wisdom ever guide us.
That was completely uncalled for... That phrase is about as true as the phrase, "toast will always land butter down". Like toast falling down, its all variable.At least you aren't playing Necrons!
Every Army has the potential of "cheese", which is Jennistrazan for, " I'm a big fat lazy A$$ who can't make any strategy so i have to make people play armies that can't win and are easy to win against while i mass my own expensive uber-units". (Note: for this full phrase, you add the 'Upin-' prefix(once conjugated: Upincheeseprial))
I agree with the 1/500 rule and as a Necron player I'd even go with a 1/750 rule...
Necron will stand for eternity.Their race has survived aeons by trading their very souls for metal bodies. Now, they will live on through eternity and will vanquish all life from our universe.For they are Necron. Flesh is weak. The machine will rise!
I agrre with limits. It is much funner to apply strategy than rely soley on the dice. My regular opponent max's out his cheesiest armies cuz he's all about winning. When he wins he can't stop bragging how the dice rolled and when he loses he concedes halfway through the battle because he can't stand anything going remotely the wrong way. Last battle I played was orks and imperial guard and he conceded in the first bloody turn after his 2 basilisks failed to cause a dent in my army. I'm eager to get out and play some ppl who jsut like to play the game. I'd like to finish a bloody game like before when I'd play my other friends.
Either way you do the math, it all adds up to you goin' down