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    Hello there,
    im a new face to this board, just bought my first bunch of necron stuff yesterday afternoon, quite spur of the moment actually. Im a n00b to wh40k, but i did my homework before purchasing an army. I bought the battleforce (because the place gave away a free codex if u bought one) and a lord, along with all the paints, glue, primer, brush, etc. all in all i ended up spending like 130 bucks. luckily i have some money left over. i was convinced to start wh40k by a friend, who plays using chaos space marines. my question is how do i expand in order to defeat him, and what tactics do i use. so right now i have

    1 lord
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    5 scarab swarms
    3 destroyers

    i know he is using termnators, and he is getting a basilisk and a leaman russ. i think hes using traitors gate right now. should i go with tomb spiders, heavy destroyers or immortals? any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! thanks guys


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    what kinda army u planning for ,shootie, HtH, or a combination of both?? if ur shooty try including immortals a couple more warriors and some more dastroyers. MAby upgrade ur necron lord with a destroyer body so ur not screwed when he gets shot by a railgun.

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    sorry went off topic with the rail gun it just one of my freinds is a rail run fanatic. It also matters on what sort of army he is making. if hes aligning it to a certain god. Againts nurgle lots and lots shooties cuase of the auto wound from guase weapons. Maby some paraihs with there warscythes fight them back. Againts khorn u can try a shooting army so that hopefully u kill them off before they hit ur line. just use veil of darkness if he gets to close. tzeenthc .... well just ingage in close combat even a warrior will kick there ass . slannesh ur gona have to be carful cuase they have warp screm stopping u from hitting first most of the time and they have devasting medium range weaponry. THe same range as ur weapons. Thankfully the favoured unit is only 6 so they will be small squad numbers.Againts any of the lower legions like nightlords u just gotta have a wide viarity of units so u can deal with there ever broader army list. like destroyers to catch up with the chaos rapters.

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    Thank you priest for your time, the advice will be used, i appreciate your willingnest to help out a newbie. I have not yet decided whether to go shooty or cc. I dont have a limitless supply of money, or I would just get everything I thought i needed, so budgeting is key. I could probably spend another 80$$$ bux max, more later tho. I found an online store where i can get 2 tomb spyders for $12 (plus shipping) each. would this be a good idea, or should i go with some heavy destroyers. Here is a list of the units im considering and why i need them. Please tell me which and/or how many of each to get. note - i think we'll play 1000 pts at first, but 1500 and 1850 later.

    tomb spyders - give me my wbb rolls, can produce scarab swarms to tie up his big stuff - possibly could be used in close quarters battle.

    immortals - great escort for my lord, since they count as necrons, also have killer shooty weapons.

    heavy destroyers - tank killers, also could work on taking out his daemon prince. also count as necrons.

    wraiths - great fast attack, but i dont think we'll be using much terrain involved board, very basic i belive.

    flayed ones - im open for ways to use em against chaos...

    mayve even a monolith - but i dont know how efficent it will be against him in a 1000 pt match.

    thanks again!

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    1- The tomb spiders r Ok i would suggest using it in bigger games. Look at this way who in the hell has the power to kill a whole squad of necron warriors in 1 blow. 10 warriors make it that an ordinance blast cant hit them all leaving at least 1 warrior alive to let everyone make there wwb roll. In the making of the scarabs they will be slow cuase they have to stay with the tomb spider. PLus u gotta watchout for the rolling of 1's wich can kill ur tomb spider if ur a bad roller.

    2-I would use the immortals in support of other units so that ther more shots can add to the total shot. In the case of a retinue i would give the Lord a destroyer body and giving him a retinue of destroyers( not heavy)but its really ur chose.

    3-The heavy destroyers will take out tanks like a hot knife through butter but what happens when all the tanks( or no tanks if they are all infintry). They r good in taking out terminators but after that they get ****ed when it comes to infintry(serious overkill). i would make them destroyers they get the heavy 3 gauss cannon which can still be fired even if they do move.

    4-Well to say the least ive never really used the wraiths or plann to cuase of the small squad numbers, but ill give a suggestion on it. If you use them as basic troops they are gona die very very fast. They will sooner or later fail there godly +3 invunarable save.( u wont always get the wwb roll to roll the way u want) i can see them being used to take out key units and expesive HQ's.

    5-FLayed ones are nice basic troops( they r warriors with claws and better iniciative) but thats all they are. At teh most ull be using these guys to tie up a couple of squads. There wwb roll and there power armor like saves they will last( not againts tyranids though)but there small sqauds make it hard to do much.In my opion i would use scarab swarms.

    6-in a 1000 point game the monolith will be a killer but ur small amount of necron units(the monolith is 235 points, good enouph for another squad of warriors) will make you phas out very very fast) Plus it would be a wast for a nice little stray lascannon to punch a hole in it. but u can deepstike it if the rules allow it and deepstike some warriors bt going through the monolith portal. Hopes this helps.Remebr im a shooty fanatic i would suggest asking around cuase my points of view might be one sided.


    Psst..... Dont forget the ressurection orb on ur lord he can change the whole game for you.

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    ok sorry forgot to add this to my last post , remeber u will always glance on a roll to hit of 6. No matter what u have even a warrior has a chance of taking out a land raider or a monolith

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    also about those tomb spiders if u still wanna buy them thats a very good deal... Games-workshop.com sells them at 20 &#036; each. BEcarful of being scammed. <_<

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    in your question u say how to kill choas
    is this a person u are goin to fight
    if sooo we need to know wot the other has in it

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    death from afar
    try to destroy their ordnance first to get rid of ther heavy weapons
    by the way, do u have a NB too? because these guys will help against nasty CC troops

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    just kill every1 i always works for me send in the heavy spport and then send in the troops

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