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The manta flew low through low cloud cover followed by two smaller mini-manta looking craft. As it passed over a forest nearing the Imperial encampment, it's hatch opened and the troops disembarked from the transport. Several XV15s and XV8's jumpjetted out and over the canopy of trees looking for a good position in cover from the Imperial troops. Just behind them the two smaller transports disembarked two hover platforms, they had blast walls enclosing them, but no roof. Standing strapped on to each of the platforms was an XV-88 with its railguns peering easily over the walled platform.
The two XV-88 platforms each took up flanking postitions in the forest on either side of the main force and floated slowly to the edge of cover. When the command was given, the railguns started blasting from the woods, as drones moved ahead to set up as bait for the XV-15 and XV-8s.
This just an idea been tossing around, a mobile walled GEV skiff that a broadside is frimly standing on locked to the floor by switchable "bootstraps". The platform is surrounded by a blast proof armored wall that encloses it up to neck height in the front, but with crenelated spaces for the arms of the broadsides to aim it's weapons through. The platform does not have a roof covering the broadsides.
The mobile platform moves the same as jumpjets, allowing 6" move in the moving round, shoot, then 6" in the assault round. However it only allows the broadsides to fire all of it's weapons if it moves 6" or less. if it moves more then 6", it can only fire non-railguns.
Points: 30 Fr armor 10 Side armor 10 rear armor 9
Vehicle type: light skimmer vehicle speed: fast Move: 6",6" assault move.
It has no weaponry and the low points should reflect it is a one unit transport, like a jetbike of sorts. The better armor then a jetbike is offset by the lack of any additional weapons. Plus, when you add the points with the broadside, you're looking at almost the same as a hammerhead.
Then just use a Hammerhead.Originally Posted by Thrynexx
So you're looking at a Hammerhead, but without the armor, or move and shoot, or any of the vehicle upgrades, for a little less points?Originally Posted by MobiusPrime
I agree, I think I'll just stick to my Hammerhead
thats not very supportive....
The idea of these forums is for ingenuity to happen and when it does you shoot it down...
i think its a very fluffy idea seeing as how Tau always liek to kill things from a distance, what better way then in the sky?
I think that you should make it cost more points but have a better armor value and personally i think something like this should be in the bg section as the platform is supported by a manta and maybe a kind of space equipped Broadside?
But its a kool idea and if your opponent says ok you should try modeling and playing with it
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To be clear, supporting ingenuity does not neccessitate supporting bad ideas. This is a bad idea.
Even from fluffy/tech standpoint it makes no sense.
Just use a Hammerhead.
It sounds ok but you might as well make some kind of rail-aircraft. A giant platform for Broads? Broads are just too heavy and it would probably cheaper to make aircraft that are faster and cooler looking. Its pretty creative though.
I would agree, Youre trying to make up for the Boadsides weaknesses and you made it into a weak Hammerhead. And only small light units can make the jetpack/jetbike move, you've made a shadow of a transport. You have even forgot to make it an oppened-topped vehicle, which it would be and you've mentioned servral times it's lack of a roof, Even if its less expensive than a Hammerhead I would much rather take a Hammerhead. But keep trying, you may find some middle ground somewhere....
There is a good idea behind this, yet I probably did not explain it too well! I don't mind the concerns with the ideas, all new ideas have to stand the criticisms, and then eventually be tested on the tabletop.
Yet it is not always simple to describe a new unit and how it can be effectively used, so I guess it will take more time and effort...
The hammerhead point comparison was just thrown out to say that this will in total not be a super cheap way to get a broadside with extra moves, it will hopefully be a fair way.
I did not want to create another hammerhead equivalent unit using a broadsides, I want to create a mobile broadsides that is just that, a broadsides mounted to a mobile platform, and with alittle extra armor. But I do not want it too cost as much as a tank, just some more for the mobile firing ability and light additional armor.
So lets see the point values compared.
Selecting basic options on both, a hammerhead with an ion cannon is more and a railgun is again a little more then half the cost of the hammerhead tank! A hammerhead with a railgun and either two burst cannons or one smart missile cost approximately %160 percent of a basic broadsides on a mobile platform with two railguns, and a smart missile system. The more options you choose on either the more points. So, for every two hammerheads, you can take three broadsides with mobile platforms.
So what are the useage differences? Well, the hammerhead has only one railgun, the broadside has two twin linked. for the same point cost you can have either two railguns, or six, both on mobile weapon systems.
That is the big difference with the broadside platform, it enables the heavy artillery of the broadside to move in the same turn it fires! I have played and seen many games where moving the broadside was a major tactical problem as it lost LOS to a unit, and offensive fire that turn. the platform gives you the ability to reposition the broadside quickly without losing offensive ability, all for a hopefully fair point cost. That is what the design of this platform is trying to achieve.
Last edited by Thrynexx; April 20th, 2005 at 22:03.
i like the idea behind it, and i was thinking about how the fw deploy from mantas, why not have anti grav platforms for fw, to represent them coming in from a manta??? I duuno, like 30pts for an armour ten, fast open topped platform, with no weapons? Can hold, i dunno, 12 fire warriors with two drones???
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I would like to see and have thought about a walker with railguns. To me it made sense, but I didn't really go through with it. This idea of a platform is similar, except it can move 12", (although only up to 6" and fire), and the broadside can still live if the platform is destroyed, which is likely because it is so weak.
The walker I'm thinking of with a railgun would be 11 10 10 3 3 5 2 2 not open-topped. It would be able to access the tau vehicle armoury (for that extra bs). The 11 front armour could represent broadside plating on it, which is also why it isn't open-topped. It would be 87p. Most would find it too risky, as a 90p broadside could stand up to a lot more fire. However the walker gains the ability to move and fire.