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so tell me, what do you think on crystal targeting matrix's.
what do you take them on?
things like that.
personally... i don't like using them on vypers to "sniper". i just can't justify using a vyper with star cannon and ctm for 95 points that only has a BS 3.
i can see using them on falcons, a ctm is 5 points cheaper than a holo feild and spirit stone. but when equiped with a star cannon its a difference between 185 and 190 points, little points, but massive role changes.
then you get into different tactics.
say you have a falcon with ctm and star cannon, which i will refer to as "185". if you use it properly, it will mess with your enemy extremely. maybe making your enemy disperse their line to advance after it. which is good if you have a fast force because your enemy's main line will be down a unit or 2 , hopfully, going after that falcon, which will make it easier to single out enemy units. we all know falcons do massive damage so it will be a hot target.
on the other hand, falcon 190, (star cannon, holo-feild, spirit stone,) can take a serious beating. so you may keep it moving max rangeand firing, making sure to receive only glancing hits, so its used almost as a decoy. i know i know decoy is a harsh word, its more just to draw fire. this configuration would be good for a mostly on foot army. say if you have warwalkers getting into range, or trying to draw attention away from those scorpians, spiders, etc etc.
now about vypers, personally i haven't used them with ctm's. i play Ulthwe so i can't have a farseer on a jetbike casting Guide on a unit of 3. i see people using bright lances and missile launcherson their vypers while being "guided". this is an awsome tactic, but instead i use the BL and EML on wraithlords (BS4) and Black Guardians (BS4), which i find last a lot longer than a vyper.
let me know.
I for one donÂ´t use CTMs. Vypers are not worth such an expensive upgrade, and I find falcons too big to hide propperly behing terrain. Furthermore, CTMs are not that great vs. moblie forces, since they will always manage to get a shot at you anyway. The SS + HF combo on falcons, SS on vypers, and SE + SS on serpents are the only upgrades I use. CTMs, schytes and VE are upgrades that aren simply not worth it IMHO.
You would be surprised if you knew what kind of pimped up skimmers flew around out there. I have seen vypers with SS + HS + CTM soooo many times... when will people learn? I use SS mainly for the flavor... I hate boring stock vehicles.Originally Posted by Black Katalyst
Hmm not quite th unwritten rule, the generally accepted form is as follows:
either CTM or
SS and HF
4th ed rules on skimmers and LOs have caused problems for CTMs, the 2 options do have different roles, and personnaly I prefer the HF and SS
best left in the box in the store, but if you must take them, CTMs
no upgrades that are not weapon related.
For non Saim hann arm the odd, cheap upgrade is excusable for those interestd in flavour, but power gamers wont
Engine upgrades are an option you can consider, and those that havent got or red the codex invariably try and put holo fields on them