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Hey, I just figured it out that 4 kroot (24 points) vs 1 troupe (25 points) have a lot better chance than the troupe. The kroot have a 22% chance to kill the harlie with each attack, and so does the harlie, with less than half the attacks (3 vs 8 ), so this has made me appreciate how much skill in choosing the right targets, causing fear etc a harlie player must need.
My cousin is pretty useless, so I was wondering whather you could give him any help for his allied harlies in his eldar army?
Advice for him? Don't take them until he's good enough to use them effectively. Honestly, if he's useless, he should put them on the shelf for a bit IMOOriginally Posted by broken_spoons
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Allied harlies? I dont know a lot about Eldar, but theres one thing I know (fo' sure) - Harlies arent worth it. I tried making a 500-pt harlie list on an armey builder once, and I found it impossible (I mean, one troupe is like 200 pts already)
Harlies are just too hard to play effectivley, and if your opponent knows your taking them he can just load up on flamers. (ignore cover save, force harlies to fight at a distance, which they arent very good at)
Tell him to get something else instead. (of course, dont let this put you off; you still might want to bring harlies for fluff reasons, or 'cause the models are so damned kewl)
*cough*Originally Posted by SlickWilley
Nothing is useless.
Harlequins, especially in higher point games, shine. The EO rules are far, FAR better (and more balanced, for both players!) and let the Harlequins truly stand a chance.
I think the models are nice, but only so many of them....for HQ's, maybe. There are like, what? Three poses? Eh. I'd rather convert my own, too. ^_^
Lastly, an opponent who loads up on flamers just because he's facing Harlequins...well, that's incredibly unsportsmanlike and I would never play him again. *shrug* Even if he's the only one I could at that moment.
Example of Sportsmanlike playing: Friend and I played proxied armies, Eldar vs. Necrons. I left the Warp Spiders (anti-light infantry, light vehicle) in my list. Even though they aren't super effective vs. things like Necrons, they still did a fair share of killing. Ya just gotta use things right.
Oh, and as for him using Harlies...I'd recommend he gets a feel for the game, tactics etc. I will admit that Harlequins fall under the "advanced" area of 40k, like Kroot Mercenaries and DE. Hard to play, but when used right, they are very very nice.
I never said they were usless, I just said they were very difficult to use.
i use the EO version and a guy said that its better to use the GW site one...beacause its on the site....but they can still do alot of damage...i play harlequin for the first time against my friend who was getting into 40k...and i won....but ive already had expeinse playing eldar.....
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It's not better, heh .. the EO rules are actually much more balanced and versatile than the GW ones.Originally Posted by The darkness
Besides, both are equally as unofficial so nobody can tell you which ones you may or may not use, except the store owner maybe when it comes to tourneys (if Harlies are allowed).
where can I find this EO-list?
email sounds good, thanks