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right the battle looks perfect... ive got through the wwp and am just about to own his army... then i realise his deamon prince is there...
his deamon prince can move bloomin 12 and assult 12.. and the most annoying thing about it is... it ignores armour save and invunrable saves because hes gor deamonic stature and this weirdo weapon that ignores inv.. im still not sure that he can do that
anyway there seems to be nothing in the de army that can take it down unless i charge like a wych squad HQ and a talos all in at once
what do i do people?? :confused:
Ignoring all types of saves is possible, with the dread axe and dameonic stature.his deamon prince can move bloomin 12 and assult 12.. and the most annoying thing about it is... it ignores armour save and invunrable saves because hes gor deamonic stature and this weirdo weapon that ignores inv.. im still not sure that he can do that
However, moving 12" and assaulting 12" is not. The only way to get a similar result is daemonic speed, which results in 6+1d6" move (including FoF) and 12" charge.
What you should do is to get a sacrificial squad meets the DP in close combat - in a way so that he finishes them off in his own assault phase. Also ensure that he won't be able to consolidate into the next close combat then...and then blast that thing to hell with dark matter.
Keep in mind that DPs with stature are not protected by the IC rules for the purpose of shooting at them...
yep, take extra de warrior units of 10, thats 80 points. it will take the dp 2 turns to roughly get through them, whilst your army is massacring his.
A daemon prince would munch through a squad of 10 DE warriors easily he only needs to kill 3-4 and its over because a leadership test and they are gone assuming its 4 thats -1 to their leadership because the daemon prince counts as 10 models and then think of it as having daemonic visage then its another -1 leadership 6 is pretty hard to pass.
Dark Eldar seem like the perfect army to take out a daemon prince. DE initiative is so high that you will most likely strike first. A squad of wyches and a dude with that agonizer thingamabob should do nicely. A daemon prince will usually have initiative 5, so all your wyches and the agonizer guy (or gal) will all strike first. Should be able to give him three wounds that stick.Originally Posted by crucial
Also an archon with combat drugs might work. Something like and extra attack and reroll misses should do nicely. Although if you don't kill him you can be almost sure to be autokilled by his retaliation.
But the best way to deal with a statured lord is to just hose him down with Dark Lances, blasters, disintegrators all the other nasty weaponry DE has to offer. If he gets a wound or two from shooting he will be a piece of cake for any DE character. One way to do it is to let him have the squad he assaults. Move everything back (DE are fast!) and then give him a volley.
Wouldn't Poison Blades be better than an Agonizer? I am not sure I would purposely arm my Archon with PB but Poison Blades are cheap and can be fitted on your Sybarite or Succubus for only 5 pts.
I thought I read somewhere Poison Blades work well against daemons, no?
Against Deamons yes, since most don't have an armor save and only an invuln. A deamon prince isn't a deamon, it's a chaos lord with a sh**load of deamonic gifts and stuff.Originally Posted by KwiKwag
As was said by AA, a 12" move and Assault is only possible with D-speed and a 6 on the fleet move. If he's combining Deamonic Speed with deamonic flight, feel free to smack him with something.
As to beating said Deamon Prince, S8 Ap2 does nicely. I'm sure that your DE have enough of them to take chunks out of his DP before he gets in combat. Then just have enough warriors to tie him up for 1 turn, such that the DP wins during his assault phase, then blast some more. Meanwhile, Archon and friends are carving up the rest of his army.
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Remember the golden rule of fighting with Dark Eldar. Shoot the guys that assault and assault the guys that shoot. Why get into HtH when you can make him go away with DL fire.
I have the same problem with Dps at my GW. Just a quick question before i offer advise though, im wondering if someone could clear up a question, if the model has stature does that effect what kind of terrain it can hide behind? That aside my advise is basically to shoot just as everyone else said, however im not sure how effective a distraction squad would be, also I play 500 point games and the guy i play fields a tooled DP, 1 Obliterator, and 2 squads of troops with plasma guns and lascannons. So the distracton squads will get hosed with plasma before they can get raped by the dp, also in 500 point games its not really feasible to use an 80 point distraction unit. I was thinking maybe just give the squad two scs, and set them up as a 10-15 man squad with 2 scs used to cover wwp haemies as well as distract the dp once the wwp is deployed and theyre no longer useful, just an idea but i still think its hard to take one down with a well rounded force playing low points.
ok me n crucial have faught a lot of deamon princes (nurgle and slannesh) and i can safely say that the nurgle one is far easier to kill than the slannesh one.generally speaking yes. but if it is a slannesh deamon prince then the scene totally changes. YOU got -1 initiative from him. so now it goes simultaniously and you are gonna take some heavy casulties.Posted by Arizzar
Dark Eldar seem like the perfect army to take out a daemon prince. DE initiative is so high that you will most likely strike first. A squad of wyches and a dude with that agonizer thingamabob should do nicely. A daemon prince will usually have initiative 5, so all your wyches and the agonizer guy (or gal) will all strike first. Should be able to give him three wounds that stick.
Its like you have to decide at the beggining of the battle - do i want to concentrate everything on bringing down the DP or not - if you do then the rest of their army is gonna march into you and mash your brains in. but if you dont then you will have a peeved deamon prince flying at you with the desire to annihilate you. WAARRRGGGHHHH ITS LIKE THERES NO WINNING. :realmad:
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Last edited by Big Head; September 14th, 2005 at 14:19.
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