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which one of these two do you prefer to use in your armys?
Drazhar "owns"... as big head put it
But what about Lelith
a normal archite is 70pts
lelith is 90pts.. thats only 20 more
and for that 20pts you get:
the top 3 come up to 46pts :cool:
but... silly games workshop... when they redone the wyches with their new 4+ dodge saves.. they forgot to give lelith one.... eee
That is a VERY tough choice indeed. Lelith rocks, but my complaint is that she does not come with combat drugs (which I consider to be a must-have for any DE lord). She IS one hell of a bargain points-wise though.
I prefere drazhar though. With him, a tooled up lord, and an huge incubi retinue, you've got one hell of a kick ass command squad (especially if you have the points to throw in an incubi master).
The only reason why I picked a regular DE army over a wych cult was because I love incubi too much, and I couldn't stand the notion of not being able to field them.
Her retinue can choose the drug effect though, and for the points that you save you can pay for the succubus in the retinue.
Drazhar is overkill...you can only use him in a retinue of several incubi, and these alone are already enough in combination with the lord.
No such thing as overkill in a Dark Eldar army! :rolleyes:
go lelith, because drazhar can get picked out and killed from vindicare assassins and he doesnt get a ++ save unlike lelith
score so far:... including my vote
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I'm not sure you realize how ridiculously hard it would be for a vindicare assassin to kill drazhar. As long as he is either in a raider or in close combat, he cannot be targeted. And if he was a legal target, it would take a minimum of 2 turns to kill him off with the vindicare (1 turbo penetrator shot + 1 of anything else), and that is assuming that your opponent will be able to roll perfectly for every shot.go lelith, because drazhar can get picked out and killed from vindicare assassins and he doesnt get a ++ save unlike lelith
If a lord and their retinue are left out in the open for more than one turn, that either means that :
A) you've already killed so much that there is just not much left on the board to charge
your raider was shot down first turn, meaning that squad is screwed anyways
C) you're just a lousy tactitian
Lelith is great, ya, but without being able to give her +1 attack and re-roll misses with personal combat drugs, I'd rather just take a regular wych lord. And I personally just like incubi and talos way too much to use a wych cult.
I'll admit, if you were to pit Drazhar against lelith...then ya, lelith would own him hardcore, but I ALWAYS field Drazhar, and he never lets me down, wheras if I fail my lord's invul save once (as is usually the case for me in the first round of CC unfortunately), then Drazhar is crucial in case your lord gets caught going up against someone with a powerfist while her shadowfield is down. (the old "i'll protect you! rule for Drazhar). Sure this usually means the death of Drazhar, but it allows your lord to go kill 5 or 10 more regular space marines in the meantime.
Lelith rocks, and Drazhar sucks.. If this is a vote, my vote goes to Lelith. Lelith is a cheap and effective for her points HQ, while Drashar is a no good bodyguard. If you in fact need an incubi guard, you will first of all be better of spending the points on more incubi, and second you will most likely be using the incubi to kill troops, since that is what they do best, and Drashars bonus vs. multi-wound models will be wasted.
ooo its close... and big head hasnt voted for drazhar yet... i know he will...
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