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Im looking for some advice on what models to get for a new Tyranid army. I use to play 40k and had a Necron army, but i quit the hobby and got rid of the majority of my models. Now i have started again, this time with a bunch of marines. The person im doing the hobby with now started a tyranid army. So together we baught the Battle for Macragge boxed set to get things swinging. My opponent is very new to the hobby and does not understand the rules in their complexities just yet, so first point is, we dont want to get to invovled with super indepth rules at this point. We will only be playing for fun and were not that serious, at this stage. What i was wondering, we were looking at building 500pt armys, and starting with that. I have never played with the Tyranid's and need some advice.
I want to construct at 500 point Tyranid army using as much of the models from the Battle for Macragge boxed set as possible. If you guys could help me out that would be fantastic. It doesnt have to have super duper tactics and stratigic indepth plans invovled. All we want is a simple army that would allow for a fun game between Marines and 'Nids, and that is relativly simple and easy to use.
Thanks for your help
Since you both already have the battle for Maccrage nids you have a little start, get yourself the codex asap, a battleforce and a 2nd box of gaunts and 1 Hive tyarnt/broodlord, this will provide you with a good basic army that can tally anywhere from 500 to 1000pts games.
Alos read the codex well, it ain't hard to understand them if one reads properly.
Alrite thanks Dreachon,
I have the codex for both the 'Nids and the Marines already, and i've skimmed through it. I will start reading it properly v. soon. So first i should get my hands on a battleforce then. There's also 750pt army sets selling atm at games-workshop for the same price....i mite try and snag one of them aswell.
Thanks for you help
Also don't rush to quickly with assembling your tyarnt and carnifex, both have a wealth of options available, one of the best lay-outs for the carnifex is the famous sniper/broadside fex, equipped with a venomcannon/barbed strangler and having enhanced senses it's a fex that can start dealing damage from turn 1.
And then there's the cheap and deadly devilfexes- cheap fexes with 2x tl'd devourers and enhanced senses. I've heard good things about those.
With the broadside fex, though, it nearly always misses with me. Blah. Maybe a nice cc fex? They aren't nearly as popular as long range fexes, but I think they can be useful.
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Maybe some warriors would be good, they are fairly tough and can provide a solid 'backbone' to the army- a few of these and you have something as tough as the marines IMO
Thanks heaps guys...that helps out alot.
One more thing, you guys couldnt recommend a simple army list to go with those models could you. If its to much trouble then dont worry, just wondering if you's mite have something that you have used in the past or something simple and easy.
Thanks so much
I did a quick armylist of the cheapest way (money wise) you can build a smal tyranid force. I've only used the tyranid models from Battle for Macragge, Tyranid Battleforce and a broodlord.
Broodlord + Extended Carpace = 80pts
6 stealers retinue + extended carpace = 20*6 = 120pts
3 Warriors + leaping + Adrenal Grands (I) + Extended Caprace + Flesh Hooks + Rending Claws + Sycting Talons = 40*3 = 120
8 Hormagaunts = 80pts
18 gaunts + spinefists = 90pts
8 Genestealers + extended carpace = 20*8 = 160pts
Spore min cluster x3 bio-acid = 36pts
Spore min cluster x3 bio-acid = 36pts
Spore min cluster x2 bio-acid = 24pts
Carnifex + Bonded Exoskeleton + Enhanced Senses + Extended Carpace + Spine banks + Twin Linked Devourers * 2 = 163pts
total army cost = 909pts
I'd strongly recommend you to buy at least another gaunt box or two to replace the sporemines and fill the pts left... or you can go the cheaper way and buy a lictor... but I recommend the gaunts.
I went with broodlord over tyrant cus I think they're better against marines... but accually it's just a matter of taste ... besides the broodlord is cheaper $ wise.
I went with a devilfex breed with bonded exoskeleton... why? because at 1k pts it isn't likely you encounter very though tanks and your devourers can take on rhino and razorback transports pretty good, plus they can penetrate while the venom cannon can't. The bonded exoskeleton is for the amount of bolters having harder to wound you. Again at 1k pts there isn't very much heavy weapons such as lascans and multi meltas. So lots of weaker attacks against a tougher fex is better than great ^^. Since you've played in previous editions I think you know the deal with genestealers ...
Well its decided, my next purchase is a Nid's Battle Force. Thanks for that. In my codex, i dont have a Broodlord entry. I think i must have an older one, so ill look at getting the newer one aswell. THey seem rather confussing at first, but things seem to be clearing up.
For a smaller 500point army, would it be best to take out the heavy support and the elites?
Thanks for your help,
Yeah you must have the older codex... check for the newer one in your local hobby store.Originally Posted by SquishyB
Hm... for 500pts I'd use the warriors as HQ and trash everything else except for the troops. Use up all your gaunts and fit in as many basic genestealers + entended charpace possible. If you have some unused large bases left (warrior base large) you can glue 3 ripper models to one base instead of 5. to make 3 ripper bases instead of 2 from your battle force... that way you can use ripper swarm as well as a troop choise (as they're minimum of 3 bases ).
But I fond tyranids not to be any good in under 1000pts games... tyranids even struggle at 1000pts games because they really need the meat walls or MCs to protect other more elite mids as ravengers and stealers... but that was back in 3rd ed... I haven't played such smal games in 4th ed so I don't know if that's still true... but I'd think so