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Now this might just be me... but is there anybody else out there who refuses to use the C'tan in games? I personally avoid using any special characters (I know the C'tan aren't really special characters... don't start that) but am quite loathe to use the C'tan in particular. The whole 'god incarnate' thing kinda bugs me (not in a religious way, note) and I'd feel they were sort of demeening (sp?) themselves to turn up with anything less than 4000pts in tow...
So, is it just me?
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I do not refuse to use them because it is so much full watching the other army run around trying to figure out how to hurt it.
I will not use it in most 'fun' games because people can get a little cheezed at losing all the time. Besides, I think the models look cool.
I can understand your reasons for not using them, but I find (like in all armies) special characters can add some cool role playing and other interesting ellements to a game.
I think the models are absolutely horrible for a God incarnate, so I probably would never use them, plus I hate spending all those points on one model.
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I'm the opposite to FXDX4, I'd only really use them in fun games.
They are only really worth it in a proper game if you know that you can get them into tank-killing range- only then are they likely to make their points back. However, tanks can move faster than them, and have a longer range, so...
But, it is fun to play them and watch them emaciate a few units before being mullered by a grannifex or massed lascannons...
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I read the most hysterical thing in a post somewhere. The C' Tan are gods they can reshape their body at will, this is described in the C'Tan entry in the codex. Because of this the poster said he uses a model of a cow to represent his Nightbringer. It seems awfully funny to kill your opponent with a cow model. Especially a cow model with the statline of the Nightbringer.
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A big drawback with using the C'tan is that if you constantly bring him, people will know that you will ALWAYS bring him. This works to your disadvantage as people will just feed him fodder troops and keep him out of the main fight.
That's one of the big weaknesses with Necrons in general. It's very predictable what a Necron player will bring.
With a 2K pt army for example, if you knew he was bringing a C'Tan (Prob Nightbringer as the other one isn't as good) you know he'd also bring:
- A monolith
- A Necron Lord with a Rez orb (if you don't bring a rez orb you are really handicapping yourself)
- 20 Warriors minimum.
Gee, that's 360 + 245 + 140 + 360 = 1105 pts. I've just figured out half your points. And given that Necrons are expensive, you aren't going to be able to have much more variety. Prob will take a Heavy Destroyer or 2 and that's another 130 points and beef up on Warriors.
So I have no qualms with people bringing C'Tans. It will make it that much easier to phase you out.
Remember though...one of the big advantages of the C'tan compared to most other combat monsters is that they can't just be tied up with cheap troops. Nightbringer has Etheric Tempest and Gaze of Death, and Deceiver has Misdirect to call upon.Originally Posted by Laplace
-against most shooting armies, c'tan will die way before they do anything
-however if you are playing a ground based CC army like the orcs or nids, then they can't shoot them down, and they have to come to them in CC, so their speed isn't really a problem.
-they can also be VERY usefull to solve problems with enemies fielding all termie space marines, all MC nids, or a nasty world eaters list.
-i normally don't field them, but if your oponent brings out a list tailored vs necrons, then fight fire with fire. also if you are repeatedly struggling to beat an enemie strategy, thenchanging it up with a c'tan might be the answer.
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i used my c'tan once in a fight against ig. my nightbringer only managed to kill 2 guardsmen units as he only has 5 attacks (3turns to kill one squad). IMO that is absolutely usless, 300 some odd points of warriors could much more easily kill more guardsmen. and once again the nightbringer is 300 or so points that your enemy doesnt have to kill to phase you out. all in all I would keep the nightbringer on the shelf or save him for battles of more than 4000 pts or themed armies for fun.