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My friend keeps saying that Harlequins are official therefore he can use them as a normal army. He said that you don't have to ask to beable to use them and I know he's wrong but I can't seem to proove it to him. Any help would be good.
Here is a link to GW's Harlequin "Beta" codex (Halfway down as a PDF)
The only restriction that places on the army is that you cant use it in a Tournament unless the organiser says so. For use in normal games is does NOT say that you need opponants permission to use.
The Harlequin page itself does however say "Please remember that the rules and scenarios published here are not 'official', and may not be entirely balanced".
Note however, the GW Harlequin Codex is VERY different to the 40KOnline Harlequin Codex.
Ughh. I think the rules are kind've unfair but he insists in using them. They're like unstopable in CC...anyway, oh well.
Your best bet against harlequins is to run and shoot. A word of advice, pinning weapons REALLY HURT. Harlequins cannot survive at range you could easily wipe out a squad with a couple of space marine tactical squads or equivalents. Also deploy your units as far apart as possible and keep your hq costs low since most hqs are cc based and no matter what you do, harlequins are still unbeatable in CC.
Well, he's pretty much unstopbable with them. He uses the Dark Viel and just teleports right in front of my army and assault and im dead. Oh well.
Sounds like he isn't using the GW produced list then, unless I missed the 'Dark Veil'. The EO list is written by a fan, the GW one by Gav Thorpe. I know which one I would, and which one I would not allow my opponent to use if I were not a harlequin player.
Templates eat them. Counter charges with Frag destroy them. Blast weapons own them. Shooting in general in large enough amounts wastes them. Harlequins should be quite beatable.
Yeah, the dances are something introduced by EO, and are in no way official. Dark Veil in particular is broken. Yes, the official harlies are rock in CC, but they need to get there first. Plenty of time to take them and their fragile vehicles down. Your friend needs to get the proper list (the link above).
Well, he instists on using the EO rules..infact he combines the two sets of rules. He said its perfectly legal and I can't seem to convince him otherwise. I have no time to shoot. I really have no time to do anything because he just teleports in front of me and assaults, but whatever.
Well it's not really a case of whatever. He is clearly cheating. The EO list is about as official as me writing a harlie list myself hear and now: content of list -> "on a 2+ the harlequins win"
If I were to put that statement into a pretty PDF and post it would you accept it? Would anyone?? No.
Harlequins are in no way official. He gets to play you because you consent to playing the unofficial list. You have every right to say no to the game. Simply tell him that you want to see the list as one single document. If he produces the EO then say it's not GW so not good enough. When he produces the GW one you will be able to win more often than lose.
IMO this guy is doing harlequins a dis-service and that's very bad.
Ok, thanks English. From now on I'll only let him use the GW list strictly.