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I have been thinking about starting 40k and I can't decide between a horde of orks and a horde of 'nids. At the moment the 'nids are the most appealing, but is a 'nid horde more newb friendly than an ork horde? I just want to outnumber my opponents atleast 2/1 (4/1 preferably) and if im gonna do this the models will have to be easy to paint so:
1. Is a 'nid horde fairly easy to use?
2. Are 'nids fairly easy to paint?
I'd say that Tyranids are easier to paint than orks.
With orks you have to use a couple of different greens, you need at least two colours for clothing and boots and probably a handful to make it look good, then comes the metal paints, you could stick to one, but a couple would make it look really good.
All in all 5-15 different colours for a single ork boy.
Tyranids have the carapace armour, the chitin bits and their fleshy bits, in theory you could do this with just 3 colours, but personally I use 5, two for the carapace, two for the chitin and a single colour for the fleshy bits.
As for being easy to use, a tyranid horde is a lot faster than an ork horde, as most units in a horde army have fleet of claw, and those that dont can either have wings, leaping, infiltrate or deepstrike.
With orks you need mekboyz with forcefields to protect your horde, with tyranids you need to keep your gaunts in synapse range. The nids are better here too, as synapse range is over twice as long as the forcefield range.
If you max out the troops section with gaunts and the fast attack section with gargoyles, you can field 288 models, although you'd have to be playing at least 3000pts games.
If you go horde nids then remeber two things (well you'll probably remember more):
You want LOTS of nids (goes without saying)
You want enough synapse to cover most of your army (can't have them running away now can we?)
I've found that nids are very paint friendly. I've found they can, for the same amount of effort, look better then space marines.
As for playing, they're different to other armies, but as you haven't played anyone else before you should have no problem adapting.
'nids can also be painted much faster using the dipping technique.
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The Nids are possibly less conversion friendly, however. Biomorph options are often indifferently supported on the sprues (only one set of rending claws in every three-warrior box, f'r'instance), and the hard-line WYSIWYG line demands some work with spare bitz and green stuff for modelling enhanced carapace or reinforced chitin on your 'fexes. Wings are another pain in the tail.
On the plus side, conversion is a fun set of skills to learn. :-)
If you want any vehicles other than dreadnoughts in an ork army, you'll also have to convert a lot, and as far as rending claws go, you can order additional sprues or Lictor rending claws for your warriors, so no biggie there.Originally Posted by andrewthotep
Okay I didnt think it was possible to get such a simple yet VERY effective way to paint a 'nid horde. And I think controlling a horde will be easy enough; mover forward and keep your 'nids in synapse range. Well this gives me the incentive to finish my high elves and paint up a 'nid horde hopefully before the Fall of Medusa V. O I can't wait, I think I might even drop my HEs and work on them again for the Vagash campaign which'll be next year right?
Ive just been looking for the woodstain stuff on the net and I think it's made by an american company. Has anybody been sucessful at this technique with some british stuff?
You have a problem using American merchandise? Don't you have polyurethane wood stain in the UK? Is all British furniture the same color?Originally Posted by Bleach
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