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I'm curious to kno when they first emerged in the real world. I know the Necrons in the 2nd edition incarnation of their current form appeared in WD 217 after being hinted at in some Gorkamorka artwork and fluff, but I've just been browsing a Space Hulk thread here: http://www.librarium-online.com/foru...ce-hulk-2.html (Space Hulk), and Mikhail's comment (at the bottom of the page) got me wondering if they were actually older than this. Can anyone confirm or deny it?
Well, they came out the first time way beyond everything (fluffwise). Before WHFB, way beyond any history fluff other than that which mentions them, before everything.
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Ancient beyond imagining. Certainly old enough to have battled the ancients. Few Eldar even remember the wars involving the Necrontyr.
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The Necrontyr became the Necrons about 60 million years ago; they entered stasis because there was no longer enough life left in the universe to sustain the C'tan. I seriously doubt that any of the Eldar remember the war involving the Necrontyr...
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To my understanding they were a race that were superior even to the eldar. They were practically gods. Therein lay their problem: they were still mortal. They struck an aliance with the C'tan in return for eternal life, but they were decieved and trapped into soul-slavery. This is probably among the earliest of histories in the entire story, it came before everything. Before Slaanesh, before the Eldar, heck maybe even before the dark Gods themselves. A long long long time ago.
I believe Xerxes was looking for an answer to when the army itself first manifested itself in the game, not in the fluff. To that I always thought they wre a second edition thing as well, but apparently that is refutable.
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They are older then 2nd ed. They have alwyas been "something in the background" and the CÂ´tan are as old as the hobby. They emerged as a true race for the withn the current name in 2nd ed but they have existed longer then that.
Yeah, it was when the race started to appear in this world (as a race that GW created) that I'm concerned about.
Camel, what do you mean by having a different name? Where else might they have been brought up?
also I have seen the Necrons for the first time in second edition, but some old artwork shows them from even before second edition.
So I assume they were an idea in first edition and became reality in the second.
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Right... surprisingly I've read something on this recently. For a start: official fluff. But to simplify it, the necrons were THE dominant force in the REALLY old days, when the eldar battled them with 'spears and swords'. Given that the Eldar were a dominant power aeons before the marines came, the time before they even had firearms is unimaginably old. The C'tan are incredibly ancient beings, as well - though it is unclear what they really are (Yngir to the Eldar). They were not defeated, but sometime they became dormant after Khaine nailed nightbringer. Presumably he has now recoved, and wishes to kill everything AGAIN. The talismans of Vaul have somthing to do with this.
The Harlequins now tell this tale, and we would presume that any Eldar old enough to experienced would have turned to crystal now - this is the eldar equivalent of dying of old age. Anyway, the story does love on.
Edit: I'm not old enough to remember when they became a gaming force. I learned 3rd ed in its latter days.
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