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I'm new to the whole warhammer 40k tabletop game and I was wondering if it was worth buying the Tyranid Battle force or if I should try and piece together an army just wondering yalls opinions
With the Tyranid Battleforce you do get a bit of a deal on the models within. The models themselves are all generally useful ones, too.
Why do the survivors remain anonymous -- as if cursed -- while the dead are revered? Why do we cling to what we lose while we ignore what we still hold?
Name none of the fallen, for they stood in our place, and stand there still in each moment of our lives.
--Duiker, "Deadhouse Gates"
Yeah, its a good by and definatley something to consider. It also depends on what type/style of army your planning on playing, but generally the Tyranid Battleforce is good to start off with.
Make sure you get the Tyranid Codex and Rulebook as well.
You might consider picking up the Battle for Macragge box set. It comes with a rule book, dice, measuring sticks, plus a bunch of Tyranid models, niftly little Tyranid bits and some terrain.
And it shouldn't be too hard pawning off the marines that comes with the box since lots of people play marines.
agree with that Macragge is a good buy you can pawn of the guys or just model them into your tyranids but the battle force is a good buy too. if you'r just startin then i would go with the Macragge set
My first recommendation is get the codex. Then look at the battleforce box it contains: 3 Warriors, 8 Genestealers, 8 Hormagaunts, 8 Gaunts, a Carnifex and 3 ripper swarms. This gives you a good core list and saves you money, a rare thing from GW. This army will be just over 500 points.
After buying the battleforce your first problem is having only one fragile synapse brood. The cheapest choice in points and cash is a Zoanthrope. This guy will also give you warp blast. His problem is that he is slow and it is very likely that your Hormagaunts will charge out of synapse range. Another synapse option is a Broodlord and retinue of 5 to 11 Genestealers. He is a combat monster with infiltrate. His downside is that 1/3 of the time the scenario won't allow infiltrate and his brood looses fleet of claw. Most popular synapse choice is a Hive Tyrant.
Next problem is that you don't have enough Gaunts to make an effective brood. If you are going to use Gaunts at all you will have to buy another box. 16 Hormagaunts and 16 regular Gaunts is a good number.
At this point you will have about 750 points to play with. The major Tyranid strength is in numbers. Take the bare minimum upgrades so you can have more critters. I suggest making all your warriors leaping with rending claws and scything talons. You won't have enough rending claws. Ask to proxy some other weapon (blutac is your friend). Most players will give newbies a bit of leeway on rules.
I recommend playing a few games to get the feel of your new army. Don't be disheartened if you lose a lot. Playing Tyranids successfully for newbies will be hard. On the positive side we do well against elite armies like unprepared marines. You can loose up to a 2/3 of your force getting into close combat and still win. This is why synapse coverage is vital. However once you get 3 warriors, 5 Genestealers, a Broodlord or a Tyrant into close combat you will smash things.
Once you have an idea what works for you these are the common army themes
Lots and lots of Gaunts with support. It is fun when deploying this to see the look on your opponent’s face when he has placed all his units and you still have another 50 more models to place. The huge numbers of Gaunts just overwhelm the enemy, they just can't shoot that many before they are up to their eyeballs in Gaunts. Next Genestealers are sweeping through his army. The only downside is moving 90+ models every turn makes games last a long time. Also it will take many days to paint your army.
The Balanced List
This army will have a good mix of various broods to handle different threats. There will be a couple of gaunt broods, 1 or 2 Genestealers, a Tyrant or Carnifex for anti tank support, maybe Lictor or Broodlord, what ever suits your tastes.
The 'Nidzilla list
You can now have 8 monstrous creatures in a list, 9 if you count the Red terror. No one can deny the amount of fire power it takes to kill a Tyrant or Carnifex. This swarm overloads the anti tank weaponry in an army. In addition to pumping out a large amount of firepower.
The Genestealer Infestation
This theme list fits in with the fluff about a Genestealer infestation of a planet. It is an all Genestealer army with a Broodlord and maybe a Lictor.
Nice post Zergling; gave a lot of good information. Have some reputation :yes:
The fastest possible list
tends to have a hive tyrant, genestealers, gargoyles, maybe a broodlord, leaping or even winged warriors, raveners, and hormies. you won't see as many termagaunts or spine gaunts, and no zoanthropes or cc fexes. you might see a little bit of ranged support targeted at tanks, but even then lictors are used. the purpose is similar to the swarm list, except the idea is that they have less tiem to kill what models you do have before they are surrounded by vicious tyranid creatures
(some debate rippers are good for this list too, I'm iffy on it, but if someone wants to post an idea and reasons..... that's what forums are for, right?)
Just wanted to say thanks for the insight all of it was very helpful I think im going to try and go with a swarm type army but thats just what I'm thinking right now but thanks for the help Im sure yall hear from me agian with more questions