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Hi I'm just starting out with Tau and I was wondering what peoples views were on taking lots of minimum size squads of firewarriors in small games instead of a couple of 12 man squads.
Also what equipment if any do you give you shas'ui?
My thoughts are that it will fill out my force organisation chart in lower point games, hopefully stopping my opponent from knowing where my crisis suits.
p.s. plans for my final army includes full 12 man squads with one big squad of kroot.
Thanks for any help you can give.:w00t:
How many points are we talking about?
Generally, the more FW you have the better in smaller games, well any game really.
If you are using small squads to keep points down, then you shouldn't take a shas'ui.
I don't understand your comment about hiding your suits though.
Welcome aboard BTW.
I wouldn't split my squads just to slow down the deployment of my Crisis suits. I would bet that you like your crisis suits enough that you pick where you would like them deployed before most if any of your models are on the table. a good opponent should also know where they are coming down based on terrain, line of sight, and where you have put down your heavys and your first few troops anyways.
I think altering squad size with varying opponents can be done well, but altering so that your Crisis suits come down later doesn't really help that much.
I would shrink my squads if I were facing fast army that can assault early in the game so that you can sacrifice samll squqds to the incoming enemies and not lose as much firepower. Against slower armies and armies that shoot I think larger squads tend to do much more for the greater good of the Tau.
Well for the shas'ui question bonding small squads is completely useless.
However the marker light can help in small games to help your crisis suits or the next fire warrior squad to hit. Tough I would not use this tactic in larger games.
Other gear isn't really useful for the shas'ui.
The Tyranid torpedo? Its a giant facehuger cannon. It fires an army of facehugers at the other ships. It should cause fear.
six man FW squads with shasui with marker lights.
Use them to improve your crisis teams in small games this will make a huge advantage
WELL SAID, NO MORE SQUATS THEY ARE DEAD GET OVER ITOriginally Posted by artificer
Thanks for all the advice (and the welcome Otsego). Let me try to rephrase my question more clearly.
Say in my army I am taking 36 fire warriors as my only troops (in a 500-1500pt game approx). would you take 3 squads of 12 or 6 squads of 6.
I am inclined towards the 6 man squads, but are there any down sides i can't see?
My reasons for the six man squads are:
1.) I can split fire if needed.
2.) If either squad take 3 casulties they have to take a moral check, if failed i will only have 3 firewarriors running instead of 9.
3.) If either squad take 3 casulties they have to take a moral check, if passed they are both still above half strength.
4.) opponants will have more squads to choose between when shooting.
Thanks for any help or any disscusion on this.
Last edited by DRZog69; April 4th, 2006 at 14:27.
Thanks Will J but what are the disadvantages (apart from points if you are tooling up all the team leaders) of the 6 man teams because i can't really see any.
The only reason I can see for taking 12 man squads is if you are running out of troop slots.
Consider, a 6 man squad suffers two casualties. The squad makes a moral check, and fails. You have pretty much lost the combat effectiveness of an entire unit. If you have many units like this, then the same thing could well happen to many squads in one turn :o! Its not really worth bonding a six man team. But with twelve, the staying power is better. It just my personal preference.
I'll say go with larger teams, something around 10 FWs in a team is minimum IMO, that they will fire enough to take out even light armour/skimmers and marines, 6 man can't do that.
And as Will J points out, there is no reason to makes them take morale checks because of two wounds, they safe is really poor so they will more often fail it than pass it