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Okay, I'm seeing this more and more and it's putting me off a bit. Why is anyone selling themselves short on their PO calculations?!! I'm seeing armies of 41 "Necrons" with a stated PO of 11 and two other lists, each with 35 "Necrons" and stated POs of 9. This is completely false. One has to lose 75%(rounding fractions up per the codex) of their "Necrons" to PO, so let's do some math.
41 x 0.75 = 30.75 ----> rounded up to 31
41 - 31 = 10 !!!!!!!!!!!!!
35 x 0.75 = 26.25 -----> rounded up to 27
35 - 27 = 8 !!!!!!!!
There are some others I've seen.
Anyway, it's not too big of a deal I suppose, but when it seems that the majority of wins versus Necron armies is due to PO, take every scrap you can. That 0.5 of a Necron is worth a whole Necron in PO terms, claim it!!
/end rant
Karmoon: "well.. any kore = good kore" 12:35pm PST 23 May 2007
That is actually more crucial than you say, there are times when double checking PO (after I think I reach it) I realise I haven't PO'd and gone on to stay in the game and draw/win.
Since I don't want to start another thread let me add this: Although petty (or maybe not), I believe every list should adhere to the formula y = 4x + 3 (where x equals the "desired" PO) to determine the total number of "Necrons"(y) selected for the list. Let's do some basic algebra and comparisons.
x = 3
y = 4(3) + 3 = 15 "Necrons"
As one can see, 15 "Necrons" have the same PO as 12 "Necrons". Obvious? Maybe. But that is 3 more WBB models that your opponent has to try to bury before they get a PO. Perhaps in large armies this isn't a big deal, but why not be stubborn about it? Make 'em work that much more.
Cheers
Karmoon: "well.. any kore = good kore" 12:35pm PST 23 May 2007
I actually don't care too much about phase out. I make my lists, and then calculate the phase out.
Just X necrons times .25 and I have it. If it is a decimal, I round down, as to win, that extra .25 necron has to die. It is interesting how the codex says round up... but then they round down (like they are supposed to, it makes sense) when they give an example. I always go with the examples if given.
PO is important, but as long as you are within 1 model, it isn't so bad. Now 3 is a minimum of 54 points, so that is big... at least for other armies.
Lol," I advise you to go for phase out." Phase out is like having less models than your army than you really have, and is used when determining if your army is wiped out or not. Its like telling somebody to completely wipe out ultramarines, because it is the best way to go.
The good thing about phase out is that no prisoners can be taken (eat that DE!... ah, can I have my flayed one back now? O, and I need my lords warscythe back, your archon sorta had it stuck in it after it ran away with my flayed one.)
Last edited by Sleepy; April 13th, 2006 at 02:35.
I had posted this in another thread, but anyone doing Phase Out searches will probably find this thread first, so I figured I'd repost my formula.
If you mulitply the total number of Necrons by 0.75, round up.
If you divide the total number of Necrons by 4, round down.
for example:
21 Necrons x 0.75 = 15.75. Round up to 16, 21 - 16 = 5 Phase out
21 Necrons / 4 = 5.25. Round down to 5 for the Phase out number.
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Yeah or in a language even I can understand, devide the number of doods you have by 4 and ignore any number after the little period thingy.
Gosh and to think of all the money I wasted in college.