Welcome to Librarium Online!
From what I've seen many people don't like using gargoyles. It seems strange to since they are fast and the have bio-plasma which could take down some units pretty good or tie up smaller units eaiser. So is it just because they cost so much in real life or they are just too expensive?
It's a mix of the two. In small point games, it's hard to justify playing twelve points for gargoyles that will go down like chumps to most enemy fire and really aren't that much better than Hormagaunts in CC. In larger point games, it's very expensive (in terms of real money) to have the numbers necessary to make fielding broods of Gargoyles worthwhile.
The cheapest way I've found is to convert plastic "leaping" gaunt bodies to Gargoyles with the addition of wings.
I have yet to use them. But I just see a 10 point Hormie able to do the same job as a 12 point goyl. Although I will probbaly proxy em a few times. Also I think the fact that they are metal kinda makes them expensive in monitary aspects.
Well, the dollar cost is rather high. I think that in terms of dollars-per-point they're one of the most expensive fast attack choices.
The models are also notoriously fragile. I haven't had wings fall off, like other people, though. My problem is the flying bases. Out of the ten Gargoyles I own, only a couple actually fit properly on the stands.
As for in-game usefulness, they're a good unit, but have some drawbacks. Firstly they've gone up in point cost, since the previous codex. In truth their cost is probably now more in line with their abilities, though. Second is that the flying bases are somewhat larger than infantry bases, making their formations naturally larger. Considering that they're more of a swarm unit, this is not a good thing.
Personally, if I had enough of them, I'd probably field three broods of 12-16 models. They're very fast and their Fleshborers are better than in the previous codex. If you play alot of Escallation games they're probably a better choice than Hormagaunts. In such games both must start in reserves, but the Gargoyles will be much quicker to get into action, either through their naturally faster movement rate or their ability to Deep Strike.
Why do the survivors remain anonymous -- as if cursed -- while the dead are revered? Why do we cling to what we lose while we ignore what we still hold?
Name none of the fallen, for they stood in our place, and stand there still in each moment of our lives.
--Duiker, "Deadhouse Gates"
Ya I can see why some people wouldn't like them but I like how if you get enough of them they have a chance at killing a speeder with their fleshborers and bio-plasma attack which can be very helpful since skimmers are annoying for Tyranids.
So, when the Gargoyles costed 10 points, it was "too expensive money-wise".
Now it is "too expensive point-wise", too.
Good job GW...
L like am alot but the thing that's keeping me from fielding large or multiple broods is the price in money it costs, the point increase is neglabe as they were underpriced in 3rd.
I like Gargoyles alot. Having said that, I haven't bought any of the GW models. I like converting and will either use Gaunts, or even individual Ripper with Fleshborer arms, and wings. I don't like the model or the price of the GW ones.
I reacently proxied a brood for fun and they preformed much better than I thought they would. Paired with a flying Hive tyrant, they can help collapse an entire flank. Ya they have a crap save but they're fast, have a nice gun, and do well in CC. I would highly suggest you think about the rocket gaunt conversion if you don't want to shell out for the actual models, I'll edit his post once I find the link.
Last edited by thedrifter777; April 30th, 2006 at 16:52.
"Dare to be Naive"
If someone helps you, or you just like what they say, rep them
I like them alot too.. but it's true that shelling out about 400 dollars for a full brood of 32 is very expensive.