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Its not for me its for a friend but anyway here goes..hes playin a space marine guy in a 1000pts battle he got creamed the last time and has no idea what to use in his army list this time. Models hes got
Hive tyrant with wings
approx 30 gaunts
The space marine guy uses a lot of lascannons and heavy bolters and one evil command squad.
Needs help desperatly
(Helps me win in the long run so please help)
whats the breakdown of his broods when he plays?
Hive tyrant with wings
approx 30 gaunts
Thats looking to be more like 1500 points rather than 1000.
The following was an outstanding repsonce in the Thread "Broodlord and his BS skill"Originally Posted by PoptartsNinja
I agree, that many Tyranids can't possibly fit into a 1000 point swarm. Plus he has a Hive tyrant with Tyrant guard a Winged hive tyrant and a Broodlord. This is three HQ units I don't think he can do that.
So my first bit of advice is he's not following the rules properly and possibly missing out on some of the Tyranids more potent capabilities and he's blowing too many points on his HQ.
Secondly Space marines can usually be dealt with in two basic ways attacks that get around their armour such as rending attacks, monstrous creatures, warpblast and the Bio-acid Spore mines. This means negating one of the best basic abilities of the Space marines.
The other is to grind them down with an insanely high number of hits.
Devouers, Hormagaunts, Rippers and Barbed stranglers are easy examples of these.
The idea is to inflict so many hits and so many wounds that even Space marines with their
3+ armour saves will begin to fail too many of them.
The 3+ save is basically what makes the Marines tough so anybody fighting them will have to find someway to get around it. If they don't the marine will not die and therefore keep killing Tyranids.
Originally Posted by User_42
Guys, its' not an army list, it's the models he owns.:sleep:
I would suggest to go toward the godzilla way. Its easy to handle and quite powerfull.
2 tyrant (for about 350 pts),
2 carnis heavy support (Venom canon, barbed strangler, about 350 pts),
3 zoanthropes (warp blast, psy choir) (about 200 pts),
some cheap rippers/gaunt to fill the troop slots (about 100 pts)
If you want, you can add 3x1 bio acid spore mine as fast attack (36pts). Tha'ts 3 spores mines deep striking separately, if one arrive on an armored vehicule, its bingo.
Make all MC with 2+ save, and you have an army with 7 models armor 2+, able to shoot 5 S10 shots a turn, and pretty resilient in CC.How much lascanons does he have? At 1000 pts, i cant see a bunch of them, plus heavy bolters, plus deadly expensive HQ.Originally Posted by C'tan
Last edited by Noctus; May 10th, 2006 at 14:10.
Hahhahah, nice reading comprehension. Check the original once again=)Originally Posted by User_42
Personally, I'd run 3 zos w/ WB, 2 shooty fexs, 2 shooty HTs, and some gaunts. Simply outrange and shoot him to death.
16,000+ of Eldar (only need flyers)
7,000+ of Nids (want heirophant)
6,000+ of Space Marines (need rever titan)
4,400+ of Cygnar (all models for the faction)
1,500+ of Legion (just started)
tyranids IMO are seriously hindered in smaller point games as someone said earlier.and i would HIGHLY recomment raveners in low point games,also some warriors maybe? but alas...
with the models he owns i agree with the godzilla idea . with 2 groups of stealers, as his troop choice, but id go with the winged tyrand and the brood lord as the HQ's. 2 fex's make them shooty. and i think you have a winning team.. but as an alternitave...>>
i would suggest the winged tyrant in a CC config and a brood lord with a retune of stealers, a shooty FEx for anti-armor, 2 lictors also for anti armor, all the hormies he's got and LOW point other gaunts. if you arent going godzilla you need to get your wounds up. then as many stealers as he can fit with the remaning points.
you wont need synapse coverage with this set up cause your lord is already at a foward position ahead of your gaunts, also your other synapse creature has wings to keep up with them ( besides if they do shoot your tyrant to hell ALL of your army will still "fall back" tword your brood lord who should be next or in your enemy liny already.