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Im a new guy and I dont know to much bout warhammer 40k but I must ask.... what do orks really rock against? every time I have seen them play or have played them they always lose....
(please dont eat me:ninja
You shouldn't ask this question in the fluff section because the game itself is much different from the fluff when it comes down to the powers and abilities of each faction. See, in the fluff, a squad of Space Marines can win against an entire army, but in the game they're just enhanced soldiers.
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Indeed if this is a rules related query then it should really be posted in the ork sub forum.
In terms of the background orks "rock" against everyone. Or at least they have the potential too/like to think they do, they love fighting and can't lose because as an ork philosipher once put it
If we win we win if we die we is ded so it don't count and if we run away we can always come back for another go.
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To answer your question, KoS armies tend to do pretty well in general.
Foot slogging Ork armies tend to do better against 'elite' lists. Ie: Lots of terminators, expensive troops and the like who don't have enough firepower to thin out the horde enough before it gets to hth.
However, any army list can be improved.
What are you typical opponents, what types of units do they take and what do you typically put in your own?
Last edited by Grey; May 11th, 2006 at 22:49.
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Originally Posted by Magnise
orks in my opinion are the greatest army in warhammer 40K. why? their fluff is incredible, they fight because they want to ... period. Simple enough for me. Weaponary.. assault style heavy weapons, shoot rokkits on the move. A Str 5 warboss is str 10 with a power klaw..WOW. Your average ork has 2 base attacks, 3 for additional, 4 when he charges and is dirt cheap and toughness 4. Choppas.. enough said.
Yes that's a huge fragment of sentances as if you read all the posts everything is clearly outlined into how it works, how to use it, and when to use it. Basically if there is an army that is out matched by orks its Space Marines. Reducing those precious 3+ and 2+ saves to 4+ is horrible for marine players. Their average marine is 14 pts for 1 base attack and no additional weapon. Our average ork is 8 pts, 2 base, 1 additional. Numerically if orks strike with a Waagh role, they slaughter marines every time... you just have to get there alive.
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...and thats probably where orks fall down, there is so many multiple shot weaponry that ignore ork saves its not even funny. As said, elite armies don't do so well against orks, but against a balanced army orks in their current state are up against it. But orks are awesome at mobbing your enemy, only tyranids and possibly IG can outnumber them. Lots of models are whats needed to save the day.
I love orks, and I have, and have had several armys. KOS is my fovorite. 25" accross the board first turn With 3 truk loads of Ard Boyz with a PC, choppas, and 3 burnas in each load, 3 truk loads of Truk Boyz with PC, 1 burna and Choppas. 3 Twin linked roket Wartaks. 2 Deathcoptas with free mecks and burnas.But my very favorite is my Warboss on a Bike. He comes on in the middle of the battle and CHEAPSHOTS the enemy HQ when they'er locked in combat. I loose a few guys depending on terrain but many times I have rolled right over armys in 4 turns. My Ard boyz assault with 9 PW attacks 28 Choppa attacks 5 PC attks. Gotta love that.
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You guys are forgetting one of the greatest things about to Orks. THEY MAKE THEIR OWN SAVES, how freakin awesome is thta. Also the fluff rules and they are awesome, but as I have said before, it is not the army it is the general. Hope this answers your question.
What do you mean by they make their own saves? Like being all veggie-like and t4?
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Yea, I own almost anyone dumb enough to feild a top heavy army, I just walk threw them like they weren't even there. But when people are being smart and feild lots of troops there isnt alot I can do to counter it, unless I get a first good first turn of Shooting my army can fall in on itself if a marine player feilds more than 3 full squads of tactical marines.