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    Gun tyrant & gunfex

    has anyone ever tried using a tyrant and fex both equipped with a venom cannon and barbed strangler, anit tank/infantry unit starting them on opposite sides of the field for better coverage for smaller units


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    Never did that specifically, but I did use one flying devil tyrant (2x TL Dev) on one side and 1 Gunfex on the other versus a large guard army. It worked kind of well, but the tyrant definitely killed more and faster. By using a three pronged pincer movement (tyrant on left flank, fex on right, and some stealers and other nasties in the middle) I cut off the side and took a tank. This allowed the rest to swarm and get to eating.

    The only problem with a HT with Barbed Strangler is the strength. The VC is not too bad for light armor if you're using a HT, but the fex is much better. The devil tyrant is good for killing very light armor and plenty of infantry. Generalists are good, but well used specialists are even better.

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    I would also like to try

    Hay there, I haven't tried it but a friend has.

    It can be seen that the combo would be very effective against Dark Eldar, Eldar, ork, Guard etc .... but it did not prove worthwhile when he shot my space wolves. He ether missed, failed to even glance or I passed many saves and LD test, that in the end it proved he had waisted a good monsters CC capabilities.

    Hive tyrants just get away with the combo you are suggesting because its base stats are already great at killing all but the toughest enemies with a alright Bs if you boost it, the carnifex on the other hand if equipped with just shooting weapons to save points (but its going to be expensive anyway) has not only got an unreliable Bs but if caught in CC with even Guard the combat will most likely come out a draw.
    Yes the Vennom and strangler combo is good but from personal experience being shot at by them for 5 turns did not cause me to bother shooting back at it, even when I got close to it and still it didn’t bother me.

    No Space Marine vehicles are open toped. (Of course when I play my nids against experienced gamers they make full use of hull down and smoke launches, but I dutifully inform them after, that it was pointless. so there is some form of bones there.
    But this observation is only mine because I mostly vs Marines.
    Maybe you are one of the lucky ones where the whole population doesn’t play SM.

    I probably would eventually get shooty Monsters with the combo but I already have a sizable force and the price is a bit of a brick wall at the moment to get any more MC.

    Don’t decide just yet, I am positive there will be more post coming your way about what I have missed and so on.
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    The thing I like the most about a tyrant with VC and BS combo is you get 1 more shot with the VC and you can have him at 4 BS wich can be really nice if you can't roll good with BS 3 which happens to me a lot . Plus with if your aiming at smaller guys like IG you don't need to use the carnifexs 8 STR BS on them which has a better chance at missing you could use the tyrants.
    Is it me or does any other necron player get annoyed when they see people saying "Necrons eat souls". How is that even possible as souls are part of the warp and necrons want nothing to do with it? Eh probaly me just me being picky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lictor1989
    Plus with if your aiming at smaller guys like IG you don't need to use the carnifexs 8 STR BS on them which has a better chance at missing you could use the tyrants.
    Running with that point...

    Actually I've had better success with the devil tyrant than even a BS on a tyrant. I get about 7 kills on average from the devil compared to 3-4 with the BS. The problem is, if your opponent knows how the BS works, they'll spread a little bit in putting their force on the table. With the TL devs, they can't hide ;-). Depends on the squishyness of the target. (Really quite fun on grots, basically kills them all quickly). I just love re-rolling everything. Psychologically its a real demoralizer.

    Really the only reason fexes should be added is anti-armor. Consider the BS just something to do after the armor has been removed, also considering that the BS can make penetrating hits on armor, light armor atleast. That tyrant with the VC will still have trouble penetrating a Russ' front hull. Atleast the Fex has a fighting chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lictor1989
    The thing I like the most about a tyrant with VC and BS combo is you get 1 more shot with the VC and you can have him at 4 BS wich can be really nice if you can't roll good with BS 3 which happens to me a lot . Plus with if your aiming at smaller guys like IG you don't need to use the carnifexs 8 STR BS on them which has a better chance at missing you could use the tyrants.
    Wait. Im new to tyranids, why do you get an extra shot with the VC if armed with the BS combo? Did I miss this somewhere? :w00t:

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    Masamune sorry if I confused you but what I meant by the extra shot is a tyrant has 3 shots while the carnifex has only 2. So you don't get an extra attack per say from the BS but from the tyrants normal base attacks.
    Is it me or does any other necron player get annoyed when they see people saying "Necrons eat souls". How is that even possible as souls are part of the warp and necrons want nothing to do with it? Eh probaly me just me being picky.

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    Oh, no worries mate. Thanks for the quick reply

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    I normally run two Gun Fexes and my Shooty Tyrant (VC and twn linked Devs)+guard. Works pritty well. Fexes on the wings and tyrant in the middle. Usually a Zoan with each fex. they pritty much blow tanks up all day.

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    what is your gunfex loadout?

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