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Ok well i'm still learning and I was thinking through stratergies and I was wounding weather anyone had any good advice in the use of ripper swarms and mines bc all i hear is how bad they are. So any advice would be good.
Rippers are good for keeping a unit in cc, they can sport a huge amount of attacks and people will often ignore them, prefering to blast at larger nids.
Sporemines are great, take em in cluster and drop them on your opponent.
Spine guants are lethal 20 points for 3 wounds and 7 attacks on a 12" charge. St4 lethal. (ripper +leaping +TS +spinefist +1BS)
mines yeah not a fan so can't really comment. They are great if you know what opponent your fighting and can tailor the list to it. However in a campaign/tournament you'll often choose the wrong type of mine and thats 30-55 points down the drain per option so in 1000 point game it can be quite costly expecially when the other options of the Zoan and Carnifex don't have a redundency against any army.
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I've never found a use for Spore Mine Clusters personally; but I've got a friend who's a strict rules lawyer (which means the Spore Mines get removed from play before reaching the table, and therefore don't explode) if they land near one of his units (because of the Deep Strike rule).
Rippers, however, are brutally effective if you combine them (especially if they leap!) with a CC Carnifex, which can virtually ensure the Carnifex gets the benefits of a charge. I love my Rippers, they almost always earn MVP status for that.
Originally Posted by PoptartsNinja
The whole point of them is as a barrage weapon, the rules merely state that the models that land within an enemy unit are destroyed, it doesn't say they don't come into play. So they come into play and subsuquently die (explode). Tell your friend to stop being a Nazi and just enjoy the game. :yes:
I would, but he's a powergamer (and always has been), so half of the fun to him is finding tiny little rules loopholes to exploit. Besides... if I let him have his way in regards to Spore Mine Clusters, he (usually) doesn't call my Genestealers "cheesy" (he plays Daemonhunters). ^_^Originally Posted by spin0za
That has got to be one of the lamest and most stupidest players around if he plays like that, seem to me he's just a whiner who doesn't want to see his precious GK get minced by other armies.
There is nothing CHEESY about 'stealers. Sure they're excellent in H2H, but I mean his whole army is 3+/2+ armor sv ELITE space marines. His whole army is good in H2H and good shots too, but he pays through the nose in points. My point is, we pay good points for those stealers and sometimes they make it and sometimes they don't, besides all those points are only worth it on rolls of a 6...Stealers are far from cheesy...they're an expensive, low armor only effective on 6's chance (I like em though ). I'm telling you, he's not a rules lawyer if he's totally breaking the laws like he is with the spore mines too. You shouldn't be playing with someone who guilts you into a handicap...it's a game.
Pretty much spot on judgement right there; he's the kind of guy who always argues when things don't go his way. He's also still learning the game (and just recently jumped from Eldar to Grey Knights), so I'm willing to cut him a little slack until he finally gets his game together. I'll make a good sport out of him yet! (and if I can't, at least I'll know I tried).Originally Posted by Dreachon
Right now I'm more focused on teaching him to play Warhammer instead of Listhammer. ^_^
Last edited by PoptartsNinja; June 23rd, 2006 at 15:31.
good deal man and sorry to all for getting off topic!