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I was curious what is tournament legal as far as ork conversions go. I have a friend giving me a bunch of tank parts from a different game and just standard models. i was wondering if how much i could use these models so that they could stay legal???
as far as i know GW tourneys are only gw model legal...i could be wrong on that but i swear i remember hearing a story of an ork player not allowed to play because his battlewagon was half made from an action man jeep.apart from that,it'll be hard to get the scale right,i used to make scale tanks and for the most part there a fair bit smaller than 40k models.
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If you are looking to play in GW run tournaments then you cannot use any vehicles that have parts from other product lines. Katalyst is correct that you can use as much plasticard as you want though.
If your looking to play against friends, play in an independent retailer tournament, or occassionally a GW tournament run by an Outrider/Rogue Trader you may be able to use items that are converted from other playing lines, with GW parts/plasticard converted onto it. Comes down to the individual tournament rules.
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so for a battlewagon you have to convert it from all gw parts even though they dont make a battlewagon. thats not fair. that could get expensive. I was going to use a german half-track model from a model store but im not sure what i will do now. does anyone have any ideas???
Originally Posted by firewarrior76
My battle wagon is going to have an eldar falcon for a base, with most of a rhino bolted on top. Wartrakk tracks and space marine bikes will give it movement and a bunch of everything else will be on it. I'll strap a few jetbikes to it, maybe some dreadnaught parts.
Hell, you'll spend almost $35 on a decent 1/25 scale halftrack tank anyway... not that much cheaper than converting a landraider, and the 'raider would be tourney legal.
Also, if you're looking to stay cheap with it, don't pay $10 for 2 sheets of evergreen or plastruct. The plastic used in some file dividers and office stuff is almost as thick. I've even used the plastic inserts that are on the shelf at blockbuster when all the copies of a movie are gone. They are thick but cut pretty easily. Good stuff. Go into the local blockbuster and ask if they have any old ones you can have. I know for a fact that they throw most of them away. Free plasticard.
Also, hit bartertown and ebay. I bought a messed up landraider that would be useless to anyone but an ork converter, for $15 shipped. Crappy, overpainted models aren't neccesarily a bad thing for an ork player... you'll be covering most of it up with riveted plates, anyway. Crappy GW models are still GW models.
I have found that most 1/35th scale models can be easily (and more cheaply) converted into battlewagons. Most of the WW2 german assault guns are good, as they usually have a flat rear engine compartment that can easily be converted into a passenger compartment. I don't know about prices in america and so on, but it's a whopping Â£35 (64.7882 US$ at current exchange rates) for a Landraider in England, so I prefere to use cheaper models from companies such as Tamiya and Italeri. Their vehicles are larger (easier to fit 20 orks in) and vary in price from about Â£15 for an APC, to Â£30 for a tank. Also, some of the WW2 tanks don't look as badly designed as the GW models.
I prefere not to play at tounaments myself though, as I like the game emphasis to be on getting together with some mates, fighting an interesting battle and having fun. Not, as some tounaments have turned out to be, with the emphasis on winning at any cost, being beardy about the rules and advertising products for GW.
Yeah, there's no way youre going to find a decent tank model here in the states for less than $30, especially in 1/24 or 1/35 scale. I shopped for a decent sized Tamiya tank and couldnt find anything under $35
Landraiders here are $55, cheaper if you order through an online distributor. Some of them give %30 off.
Also, IMO, you can really tell right away when a conversion doesn't use GW parts, and the model usually suffers for it. You can spot it right away. If you're going to put all of that time and trouble into making a battlewagon, might as well do it right and make it look congruent with the rest of your army. Especially if going the other way only saves you $15 or so.
Just my .02 though, obviously anything goes with freindly games and you should do whichever's the most fun for you... that's the important thing.
There's a superb model that Wizkids put out some years back from their retired Mage Knight line of a Dwarven Battle Tank that is a great base for a Battle Wagon. Here's a link to where they're selling it online...
I'm building mine out of it by removing the rear turret and replacing it with a troop platform and will be adding various GW pieces that are lying around in my bits box so I can at least claim that it has "some GW pieces" on it and using a little bit of Plasticard for Ork Iconography. Most tourney runners won't make a stink about it around here anyway, and if anyone did, I'd probably tell them eat a *&(^, because the requirement that a model be made from GW pieces when GW doesn't make a model or a chassis that comes close is complete crap and is part of the attitude that makes me not want to play GW games anymore. If GW actually made a Battlewagon, I'd completely understand the logic. However, they don't, so there it is.