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As the title suggests, I am wondering what peoples thoughts on this character are? Looks like she can be quite a good tank and termy killer, but those drones means she loses IC status... I've included her in my 2000 pts army, but well, im still not too sure as for the points I can replace her with a commander and spend the remaining points on a few upgrades or troopers...
I've used her twice so far, and she rocked pretty hard. Both times with other stealths suits, the second time the stealth suits had fusion blasters, and my friend thought he was out-smarting me by taking no tanks. So picture this, I had a full layout of Railguns (4, 2 HH +2 BS), SOmething like nine Fusion blasters on the board, facing nothing but a field of black templar. (ok, he did have one lansspeeder). He had one Assault squad, a few sqauds with lascannon, other than that, nothing but crusader squads as far as the eye can see.
I slaughtered him to a man, lost nothing but a few drones (the key, btw, is similar to necrons, shoot a unit til it's dead....once you shoot black templar, they'll be surging towards you, so you have to deny him that, and only shoot what you're going to kill completely.)
Anyway, Shadwsun pretty much is quaranteed to kill 2 marines a turn. that alone will make up her cost over 6 turns, but really it's better than that, cuz she is good for taking out bigger stuff, she does shore up your stealth squads with leader ship, and you can join her into a squad, and they can all share shield drones.
Well I haven't used her myself. I just don't like the SCs in the codex. But of the ones that are in the codex she is the one I'll probably was going to use if I had to use one.
But of you are going to use her you should most defiantly have her to join some other stealths or at least be near them like Sir_Prom is. In that case she might be pretty awesome.
I think so that she would be a great anti-tank, termie and IC killer especially if she is with some other fusion blaster stealths.
But actually I don't see why she had to have those drones, she have a 4+ inv save of herself and having the IC status. IMO she would be better set with 3 wounds 4+ inv save and IC status than having 5 wounds, 4 inv save and NO IC status
Okay, so she has a stealth suit, but it does not mention that she has the infiltration rule. Surely this means that if you join her to a stealth suit squad, they cannot infiltrate?
Check out the new Tau FAQ real quick, you can't join her to a squad at all. That pretty much killed any prospects I had for using Shadowsun.
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Yes of course, her drones make her a seperate unit... haven't read the faq but its obvious. I will not be taking her again. for 175 pts, I an make a beefy Shas'el XV8 or even upgrade to 'o for that extra bs, w and ld (who cares about the ws & a!!)
Drones don't keep the character from joining a unit. "loses IC status" reffers to the 6" targetting rule. A crisis commander with drones (but no bodyguard) can join a squad, so can Shadowsun.
And yes, the fact that she has a stealth suit but has not explicitly been given the the infiltrate rule has pointed out to me before. But if you read the stealth suit descriptiuon in wargear, and the entry for her suit under the stealth suits, it's very, very obvious the infiltrate ability is both implied and intended, and if you opponet tries to deny you that, he's just being a jerk.
Ok, reading the FAQ, it directly contradicts me. Which I don't understand. Why the hell should Her and her drones be treated differently than an IC Crisis and their drones (who most certainly CAN join units).
They just keep on making these stupid mistakes, I don't get why they just can't give us Tau players a fair codex like the other 4th ED codexies that have been released.
I totally agree with Promotheus! O'shassera (Shadowsun) should be treated as ANY other Independent character with drones. So we have to do this, we have to go against the rules if we want to be able to play as the game was designed. Screw GW and their FAQ, if YOU want to play Shassera commanding a stealth uinit then do so. And if Anybody have anything to say about it, then tell him/her to go **** ********.
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In counterpoint, I've never actually bothered to merge her in with a stealth squad unit as yet, though I do deploy them together, so I don't know how important it really is.....