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I have just started playing my Nid army again in the last year and i have been looking for some good background stories for the tyranids. My problem with the stories in the codex is that they make the tyranids out to be mindless killing machines that have no purpose other than to slice things up. surely there is another reason that the hive fleets have traveled across the universe?
With the lack of good fluff on Nid's i'm starting to look at Slaanesh chaos because there ideology is soo cool and it doesn't seem as mindless as Nid's.
So is there any background info that people know of that could really make me interested in playing my nids, anything to get me inside the ideology of the hive mind?
(so that i don't succumb to the lure of Chaos)
Umm you summed it up when you said they are mindless killing machines.
Although they may not be mindless, exactly, they are just a relentless killing machine. Just remember the movie Aliens, that is essentially what these suckers are. they Eat sleep breath alien death upon worlds they encounter. The fluff for Tyranids is mostly the responses of the individual societies and thier out posts. Tau, Orc, Imperium etc they are the ones that make the Tyranid Fluff all that good.
Like reading how the Ultramarines fought to the last man (cannot recall the exact company of UM's off hand) in the arctic wastes of one of the world teh 'Nids hit. or how in the previous codex or was it the first 'Nid codex, how they introduced the way the Lictor stalks it's prey. etc.
Warriros of Ultramar is a good book if you want to read on what Nids can do to a world.
Also they are like ants, they have 1 purpose and that is all.
If you're after aliens who angst over their existence, or how maltreated they've been and like to philosophise and dance around naked while writing poetry then choose eldar.
SO huwith, i can categorically say, The Hive mind's sole purpose is to consume everything.
If you want bad guys with minds and schemes, then Chaos in an excellent choice.
I guess i'll see you on the chaos forums
LO RulesOriginally Posted by AnonymousOriginally Posted by Cyric
And yer, that lictor story is awesome, when hes stalking the catachan's in the jungle picking them off one at a time...
And when wondering wat tyranids are about i saved this tyranid tactica for the old codex by a guy called Matt Koelbl and the intro i feel sums them up perfectly....
"It is said, in 40k, that there are no good guys. Even the most virtuous armies have their own hidden agendas and goals. Tyranids, however, do not fit into the categories of good or evil. They are not intentionally seeking to harm other races. Rather, they operate solely by instinct. Do we blame the wolf for chasing down deer to eat? No, and so it is with the Tyranids.
They are the all-consumers. They go, from world to world, system-to-system, swallowing all in their path. They are not evil - they are a force of nature, inexorable, unstoppable- a swarm of locusts overtaking the galaxy. They are the Great Devourers, and they are many and they are one. They are the Tyranids.
The Tyranids seek bio-matter in order to analyze and use to create more of their kind. They evolve not according to natural selection, but to their own goals and desires. Each Tyranid is created as they wish, to fit its own unique purpose, and exists solely to serve the Hive Mind. It is the Hive Mind that governs the race, a powerful mental entity formed of the collective consciousness of each Tyranid in the swarm. The lowest of the individual Tyranids, the Gaunts, have only the most basic instincts within themselves. But when in the control of the Hive Mind, they operate according to its whims. The Hive Mind sees all, and through its conduits to the swarm - the Hive Tyrant and Tyranid Warriors - it directs its forces as its hands and eyes on the field.
The Tyranids are many and varied, and are the most diverse of any race. There are as many different types of Tyranids as there are different needs in the Hive Fleet. Each is built and remade for specific purposes. There are hordes of small, skittering Gaunts that overwhelm the enemy, charging across the field with deadly bestial speed. There are mighty monsters such as the Carnifex, which shrug off the most powerful firepower and rip apart the mightiest metal tanks with ease. Everything, in the end, fits into the army in a perfect niche, and is controlled through bonds stronger than steel."
These guys are the Ultimate Bad guys, these are the guys that stalk you in ur dreams and if u want proper cinematic image of epic 40k battle, these are the guys. I often smile a twisted smile imagaing being an imperial guard high on the compound wall seeing the moving carpet of death rushing towards him and the fear that would shatter ur soul knowning there is no-way u can kill them all and the only peaceful death can be found at the end of a lasgun...
Man, i love my bugs.
"They are coming! I feel them scratching inside my mind, scratching, screaming, running, so many - so, so many voices. They're coming for us - flesh, body and soul!"
There should be some stories about ork and Nid(other than the paragraph in the codex).Ork live to fight and are always on the look out for the strongest ennemy,in my opinion the Orks should launch a Waaag against the tyranid,how cool would that be:yes:
Let slip the dogs of war.
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There will probably be a lot more orkVTyranid fluff coming out now that Leviathan has invaded an ork Empire (a rather successful one, I believe, too)
"Tell me what you cherish most. Give me the pleasure of taking it away." Sephiroth, Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children
Or, you could think like the Zerg in the old PC game Starcraft.
The Hive Mind wants to reach perfection, and to do that, it must devour everything to use the strengths of each race . . . all that good stuff . .
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It would be interesting to have, say, a Hive Tyrant become curious about their prey and try to observe them 'in the wild', meaning in a hive city, rural farm area or...Emperor help us...a church. While they are part of the Hive Mind, they are presumably smart enough for independent action as well, and maybe they could convince 'themselves' to assimilate some behavior as well as genetics.
I can imagine the scene: a young farmboy runs up to his parents. "Look what I found, Daddy! Can we keep him? His family left him here and he doesn't have anywhere else to go! Can we keep him, Daddy? I promise he won't make a mess!" And Daddy stares into the eyes of a bipedal cockroach the size of his barn as it drools acid on his car....
"My tanks have names, my men have numbers." -Col. Edmund Grahvess, 23rd Kronecker Prison Guard
I think you touched at what im aiming at, which is that as it stands the tyranids seem to have no purpose. They are just there, they run across the battlefield and get mowed down and if they win then great if they lose then meh. There just isn't any substance there. (maybe eldar/chaos is for me)"It is said, in 40k, that there are no good guys. Even the most virtuous armies have their own hidden agendas and goals. Tyranids, however, do not fit into the categories of good or evil. They are not intentionally seeking to harm other races. Rather, they operate solely by instinct. Do we blame the wolf for chasing down deer to eat? No, and so it is with the Tyranids."
I dont know i just like to be drawn into the plight of my army to feel in the moment of ripping through a termy squad and knowing it has a purpose for the race other than just killing because of killing.
I asked the guy at the GW store what he thought of it and he had a good point, which was that the Tyranid have traveled from somewhere in deep space, probably from another galaxy in search of food (bio fuel from planets) and they have done this because they literally ate all the food in thier own galaxy. And i quite liked this idea because it gives the idea that they Tyranids are fighting for thier very survival. If they dont attack this or that certain planet then they will be whiped out as they starve to death. I mean although the Nid's are fighting ruthlessly and with great sacrifice at least the idea that they are doing for thier very survival gives them a sense of purpose and place, at least a victory actually means something other than just killing for the sake of killing.
Good hypothesis? what do you guys think?