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    New Army List Disappointments? Have any?

    I was wondering if anyone else who has done some gaming with the new codex has run into stuff that didn't work quite as nicely as they'd hoped?

    For me so far, it's been the Harlequins.

    Again, let me preface everything I'm about to say by explaining that I'm new to eldar (since the original harlies in 1990, when I left the game), and I'm new to vehicles in general, since I think they aren't usually worth their points in 4th ed.

    Comparing my results from a squad of banshees and a squad of harlies, I just don't know if I can justify the clowns use. Perhaps my general-ing needs more work (of that I'm sure) or maybe my dice just suck (which I'm also fairly certain of), but I just am not having the luck killing stuff with harlies that I am with the banshees.

    My only other bit of a bummer was the Swooping Hawk skyleap. By the time I rolled them back in for reserves (which I'm also not good at rolling :cry: ) their opportunity to truly effect the game was missed, and the pie plate grenade didn't really do much damage anyway.

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    I stink at eldar so far, so your mileage may vary, but has anyone else run into something that wasn't as they expected?

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    Did you have the harlies Kisses? My experience using them without would agree with yours (although I also had bad luck!) but a little math shows that the Kiss makes them FAR more effective against marines.

    I have to disagree with you on the vehicle front. Many of the armies I play would be hamstring without thier transports. (Wyches, Sisters) Frankly I think the lack of a Wave Serpent in my current army is what's hurting me. What kind od vehicles have you been having trouble with?

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    I used a squad of 9 harlies, all with kisses, including a shadowseer and troupe leader.
    As I said, my rolling for things like rends stinks.

    Regarding vehicles, I just have to get past the learning curve for them. I usually use 2 wave serpents loaded with 10 DAs, and 1-2 falcons, with fire dragons and banshees.

    In one of the last games I only used 1 falcon with FDs, and the harlies were on foot.
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    I think the Autarch was a bit of a let-down. He is really not as Ć¼ber-costumizable as he was claimed to be, I wanted to kit him out with Exarch powers and Exarch weapons. But then, he is no Exarch...

    Harlequins are a bit of a let-down since they are far too rare and powerful not to be 0-1, I don't want to see them all over tournaments.
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    You might do better with a squad of 6 harlies in a Falcon rather than footslogging them.

    Then you could probably bump the Banshees up to a 10 man squad in a Serpent and get more effectiveness from both squads.
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    Harlies are ideal foot-sloggers however. With a Shadow seer, their flip-belts and holo-suits they are pretty safe. Close combat squads need numbers, and 6 Harlies in a Falcon are not really ideal. It also means you have to put the Falcon very close to the enemy where they can zoom around and shoot its rear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viktor View Post
    Harlies are ideal foot-sloggers however. With a Shadow seer, their flip-belts and holo-suits they are pretty safe. Close combat squads need numbers, and 6 Harlies in a Falcon are not really ideal. It also means you have to put the Falcon very close to the enemy where they can zoom around and shoot its rear.
    This is true, but I still think transport can help.

    Maybe Cal's Battle Report about Eldar vs. Alpha Legion gave an inflated veiw of them, but that setup seemed to work well in that game.

    http://www.librarium-online.com/foru...ha-legion.html (1850 New Eldar, tested against Alpha Legion.)
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    I like pretty much all of the new codex so no complains from me about the units. Although, I would of liked to of seen some army traits to further customise an army list to represent different craftworlds in a more unique way....can't get everything you want eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heiromyo View Post
    I like pretty much all of the new codex so no complains from me about the units. Although, I would of liked to of seen some army traits to further customise an army list to represent different craftworlds in a more unique way....can't get everything you want eh?
    I deffinately agree. It would make creating your own Craftworld much more interesting and rewarding.
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    The new Eldar Codex is great,fun to play and an overall good army. I wish the Autarch could get more upgrade options, I love customizing Chaos Lords\ Daemon Princes with tons uf useful gear, an Eldar Autarch has so few options Ƨ_Ƨ
    Pathfinders are the only unit with nearly no upgrades, apart from the Pathfinder skill itself...why not having a guy similar to an Exarc with some nice addiotional abilities\equip ?
    I don't like Hawks and Vypers (even though I'll always play a Vyper against Khorne!), Scorpions are sweeeeeeet >____>

    On the whole I really like it, more customization options for Autarchs\Farseers would have been great though.

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