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I've invented some fluff about one of my Wraithlords and need some help on weapon options.
To put it simply, some Necrons killed a Dire Avenger and he was really pissed off about it. His soulstone was put into a Wraithlord for a battle but his soul refused to leave the wraith construction until the Necrons had been defeated permanently. He was a very lonely, if not strangely sinister character in dire avenger and wraithlord form, and because of this the wraithlord turned a jet black colour.
What I really want to know is what weapons are best against Necrons? I was thinking Starcannon for the armour piercing, and maybe a wraithsword as he could chop up most elite Necrons. However, with all wraithlords there are lots of great options.
Scatter Lasers make lots of shots which obviosuly mean lots of armour saves, although I could see him wanting to slaughter them rather than lucky killing (if that makes sense).
Bright Lances are great against armour as we all know, but again I think he would prefer to kill more infantry rather than a few heavily armoured troops/a monolith.
Shuri-Cans aren't really great against Necrons IMO. AP isn't great against them and it has relatively few shots.
EML is a possibility as it can take out quite a few at one time, and it can take on all unit types. My only thought is that he would prefer to be up close and it's a bit too explosive. Don't ask me why I dont think he would like the EML, I just somehow think he wouldn't.
So what do you all think?
Another thing was what are you all doing as far as Wraithsight is concerned? Are you always keeping your wraithlord(s) within range of a Farseer? Or are you getting a warlock (or upgraded)(guardian squad, wraithguard, however) to stay nearby? Or are you risking the sight of the wraiths?
Last edited by PaRaSiTe_X92; December 28th, 2006 at 21:36.
Well, Starcannon seems a good choice. Just keep him moving and give him that wraithsword, he is raging mad at these guys, so he should be cutting them in two.
It would probably be better if you have a Farseer nearby, if you can afford the points, have space in the FOC etc., as then he can be buffed and his opponents can be doomed.
Good luck though.
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I'd pick the Sword and a EML. The sword makes him look really nasty, the EML is a weapon that allow no WWBB roll for the Necrons. Otherwise you could go with Brightlance+EML but it costs a ton of points gamewise. Maybe EML+Scatter Laser would fit better if you don't want the sword.
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What does FOC mean? Sorry for my noobiness.
The fluff makes him out to be a solemn and lonely character; would this fit? He would still be incredibly angry, just he wouldn't run and attack agily like the others; he would more just "strole" up and hack them to pieces. Would this work?
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1) That means he always needs to fire a krak missile, meaning he can only kill 1 per turn. And that includes normal warriors. Starcannons, on the other hand, can kill twice as many.
2) I somehow dont see the EML and sword as a good combo; I think the EML is more for long range support, whereas the sword obviously isnt. My other wraithlord will probably be bright lance/EML combo, 'cos he will be anti-tank support.
Maybe it's just me.
Last edited by PaRaSiTe_X92; December 28th, 2006 at 23:07.
An awesome conversion would be having him carrying a Shuriken Cannon (I know it's not that great, but he would be a larger version of a Dire Avenger!)
Just some math for you real fast:
EML (KRAK) chance to kill a Necron:
Starcannon chance to kill a Necron:
Meaning they have the same effective chance, but one forces you to put all your eggs in one basket, one doesn't.
FOC means Force Organization Chart, meaning put in a Farseer if you aren't using your other two HQs.
Just for reference:
Shurikannon chance to kill a Necron:
3x 9.259% (Half as effective as the Cannon and EML) (but twice as efficient, points wise)
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If you're looking for a good set up for a pissed off Wraithlord, why not go with duel Flamers and a Wraithsword.
Flamers, although not excellent at killing Necrons, will drop a few over the course of the game. They also add a great image of a blood-lusting Wraithlord spewing fire onto it's foes before crashing into them with it's mighty sword!
Just my thoughts!
Comes with a Wraith Diresword (ex Dire Avenger)?
I sy if he's a furious Necron-hater who wants to be distant, keep him distant from your army, while wraithsight limits his use, arming him with Twin Flamers, Scatter Laser, & Shurican will be as effective as possible in each turn, swarming the enemy with fire.
But game-wise... Starcannon & Sword looks good. 2 6s to ressurect isn't too bad compared to 1 without it.
To you all who act as if the enemy WILL roll 6s, they won't. Oh sure, If they have the Monolith or a Lord with Res orb (as always) they get more rolls and may ignore the need to roll or whatever, but meh. The Brightlance/EML Wraithlord will work fine against either.
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I don't want him to be a range one, he's too furious to stand back (unless wraithsight strikes - stupid fluff breaker!); he wants some action!
And as far as WBB...just more Necrons for him to re-kill; I dno't think he'll mind too much!
So Starcannon and Sword (with dual flamers) it is then! According to me that's 130pts of Necron killing! Then add a cheap Farseer with a power (maybe Guide?) for 85pts and then I'll let him cause havoc!
I'd say just take the wraithsword with no shooty weapons (except the 2 free flamers of course). This keeps it nice and cheap and effective in cc (where you want to be) as he can instant kill even immortals and destroyers (if he can catch them).
Necron players tend to want to show off their gauss weapons. Quite often he will just taunt you by shooting at your wraithlord with gauss flayers and occasionally wounding it (thank god for the armour save). Keeping your wraithlord as cheap as possible just turns it into 1 big fire magnet that threatens to take out a 20 man warrior squad in cc. That will scare him into shooting it (especially if you convert it cool and paint it black).
Don't bother going for missile launchers to ignore WBB. Anything it can instant kill will be under a res orb 95% of the time.
So yeah, my suggestion is just the wraithsword on him. If you get really lucky he may even move forward to rapid-fire it! (many players forget wraithlords have a good save so its unlikely to die).
And you might want to upgrade your avenger into an exarch. Even exarchs usually get put into a wraithguard as it takes a massive hero to get a wraithlord.
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