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Im creating an Archon for my dark eldar army, my friend plays nids, and tau, and im wondering what wargear would be best for playing against these armies. I was thinking the haywire grenades for getting rid of hammerheads, and poison blades to get rid of the big beasts in his nids. Anyone have any other ideas?
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Against both, dracons are a far better, cheaper and more convenient choice.
Dracon - drugs, agoniser, Tormentor helm, reaver bike, shadow field
>>>if joining a biker unit, or going solo hunting
Dracon - agoniser/punisher, drugs, showfield, plasma grenades, tormentor helm
>>>if taken with incubi retinue
However I really dont recommend taking incubi vs nids, unless enemy is playing a heavy warrior list. Otherwise, guants and genestealers will overrun your men.
Dracon - punisher, t helm, hell mask/mask of damned, drugs, plasma grenades and shadow field
>>>if taken with incubi retinue
Dracon - agoniser/power weapon, tormentor helm, reaver jetbike, hell mask/mask of damned, drugs and shadow field
>>>If going solo or joining a bike unit
Dracon - Punisher, tormentor helm, drugs
>>>Cheapest version of a lord with an incubi retinue
Dracon - punisher, tormentor helm
>>>If you REALY dont want to waste points on HQ
I would say against tau a dracon is more than enough but against nids, that extra attack at the higher initiative of an archon is worth it.
Incubi have a hard time against nids because genstealers and some other units have a higher initiative. Incubi are also pointless against tau because they are horrible in close combat. Incubi are a little overkill when it comes to fighting any aspect of tau even kroot. Even though I have ran a 8 man wyche squad into a fire warrior squad and lost a round of combat on the charge.....most horrible rolling of my life. So if I had to make a single list to go against a tyranid player and a tau player, I would take an archon without a retinue.
Equipment wise, combat drugs are always a must in my opinion. You want a punisher w/ tormentor helm against the tau for the highest toughness they have is a 4, and you want an agoniser against tyranid to deal with monstrous creatures. So I would take an agoniser. There is enough rending and mc's that ignore armor saves and insta kill that a shadow field is needed against tyranid. Tau it is not needed as much. Trophy rack and plasma grenades are always cheap gear that comes in handy. Now whether you mount your lord or not depends on the style of your army. I do not like the idea of my lord mounted but others swear by it. Just figure out the role of your army and where the lord best fits.
I always wish I had more Agonizers when playing against nids. Of course that's probably because most of the nid lists here are heavy on the MCs and Warriors.
I agree that against nids you will want the extra wound and attack from an Archon.
I also agree that incubi are wasted on tau and nids. You would do much better with more warriors.
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I would only add the idea that your Archon/Drachon would need to be used with a retinue to achieve the “ablative amour” that it so desperately needs. Every time I have relied upon the shadowfield it has failed me and the sacrificial wounds provided by the retinue have proven to be of much more use. So it’s the combination of the Archon/Drachon with the retinue that’s means more to me in the long run.
Against Nids I would be tempted to take warriors with splinter cannons and against the Tau I prefer my Wych Cult with Lelith Hesperax taking on the role of HQ.
But to get back to your Archon, always take combat drugs with +1 attack and the Tormentor Helm as standard, the rest has been covered in the previous posts.
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