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Hi, I'm not sure if this should be put in the fluff forum or not, if it is mods please move it..thanks
anyways, I was wondering would eldar and dark eldar ever ally if the situation called for it. For example they both hate Slaanesh so what if there was a weakness (in the the emperor's children legion or any other slaanesh organization) that was exploited by the Eldar would the DE jump into the fray and help their former comrades to weaken a mutual enemy and their "captor"?
At first I would have said no mostly because dark eldar and eldar have a very deep hatered twords each other, but against a common foe they might, but if the eldars are the victorys than dark eldar would try and kill off the eldar.
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Against chaos or necrons they might ally. It's far more likely that dark eldar would just run away and leave the eldar alone to fight. Maybe you could invent something forcing the dark edlar to stay? maybe some kind of artifact they MUST find? maybe the webway gate is broken?
If they are both stuck together against a common foe. They probably would ally then start fighting immediately after the danger's gone. Or just part ways instantly if they get the heck beaten out of them. There is no chance they would feel friendly towards each other.
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I would kind of relate this to the Emperors army (SM, IQ, SoB, DH) and the Eldar. Both hate each other but will work together to promote their own means.
So it is plausible for the Dark Eldar and Eldar to work together if it beneficial for that time. You can say that the Dark Eldar are fighting for some reason against any of the other armies (be it for power, artifacts, or fun) and say the Eldar farseers sense that helping the DE win the fight will help in the far off future to prevent much destruction, like stopping the necrons from reviving, etc.
When you get right down to it, both were once the same.
Maybe an artifact that can weaken the link of Slaanesh's hold on the souls of the eldar?
Also my army's fluff is based on the eldar of altansar finding a splinter faction of the dark eldar in the Eye and they joined forces to hunt down slaanesh along with the help of maugan ra and the Ulthwe craftworld. The Dark Eldar see it as a way of redemption. I think it was a good idea. If theres anything terribly wrong with this, let me know please.
I read somewhere that it was actually not uncommon for eldar and dark eldar to ally against a common enemy like chaos. It said that even though the dark eldar and eldar don't agree on how to live their lives they will still help one another out because of the situation the eldar race is in.
I'm not sure where i read this maybe someone else might know?
While I think it's plausible that they'd fight together in the right circumstances, I think the ones you illustrated are not it.
The Dark Eldar don't seek redemption. No more then the Eldar seek debasement.
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Oh ok, I just figured that there would be a select few in the dark eldar that would have a shred of sanity left in them to rejoin with the "pure" eldar. Now Im not saying that they would be welcomed with open arms because that most certainly would not be the case. But they're trying to prove themselves by being on this "crusade" against chaos with Altansar and Ulthwe.
They would "ally" only during a threat that would wipe out them both...or threaten the webway.
The most plausible way to work it is that Chaos has gotten uncomfortably close to Kremmoraugh (or however the DE city is spelled) and in doing so were utilizing webway portals close to the altansar craftworld (or craftworld X, make one up).
If the DE felt that their back was up against the wall, and the craftworld eldar felt they could exploit the DE to protect their craftworld then they would cooperate.
By cooperate I mean fight in parallel. You'd never see a unified chain of command or units of DE and eldar fighting mixed together.
Eldar find DE to be disturbing and hateful, but they wouldn't go out of their way to fight them. They'd prefer to avoid all contact, as they are a painful reminder of what they were like before the fall.
DE hate eldar and want their kit.
At the end of the campaign the eldar would have to plan on some way to slip away, leaving the DE to hold the bag. DE would likely try to do the same...would make for a poor strategy for the climatic final battle, but it would be dramatic and ultimately doom the 'good' guys--perfect for a gothic setting.
Also you could use harlequins as go-betweens. They live in the webway and work with both sides even though they are i the eldar codex.
Its hard to think of an artifact 'gucci' enough to make them work together, and the other guy is right, DE do not desire redemption. They want slaves and interesting and painful ways to kill people. It would have to be a work together or die type thing and even then there would be a race to sell each other out.
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Good luck, and I hope that was helpful.
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