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Few questions for ya'll:
1) does the new Hive Tyrant kit come with Wings? If not what is a good place/kit to get them from?
2) does the carnifex kit come with 2 twin linked devourers in the box? If not, will a devourer from another kit like the warrior kit or the gaunts kit work?
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Nope, the tyrant comes without wings, but you can put some other mini's wings. LOTR Balrog/fellbeast wings look very cool, but if you use them you can't enter Golden demon competitions. (I think their use in tourneys is allowed now, it wasn't before.)
You could use some chaos or WHFB dragon or nightmare to get the wings or order the parts separately in one of many online shops.
I scratch built mine, based on the tutorial on Necrotales -- Painted Miniatures, Galleries & Tutorials (not that I'm gonna enter a GD, but...)
There's a thread discussing wings below this one, check it out: http://www.librarium-online.com/foru...my-tyrant.html
And about the carnifex, it comes with a pair of twin-linked devourers. But if you want to build a dakkafex you'll need an additional pair. (i.e. 4 devourers). Warrior and Gaunt devourers won't do as they are quite smaller and only one-sided, you'd need some conversion. Not that it's gonna stop a nid player, is it?
Anyhow, if you give your flying tyrant scything talons or you build a "broadside fex" (It's my favourite configuration: ES, VC, BS, and perhaps defensive upgrades.) You'll have enough spare devourers for your dakkafex.
Otherwise you can order them separately in several sites. (bwbits, for example).
Assuming I don't have enough devourers, Would you happen to know how most tyranid players do these dakkafex conversions?
Also,why wouldn't I be able to use those wings on my tyrant in golden daemon? Not that I would enter but just wondering.
Last edited by Supraboytt; June 5th, 2007 at 14:52.
Golden Daemon competitions had a rule that stated that you can only use parts from the Warhammer Fantasy or Warhammer 40k universe. I'm about %95 sure that this is no longer the case and you can now use parts from LOTR.
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Assuming you have spare devourers from other minis (note: the carnifex ones are beefier than regular ones), you can use some greenstuff, hack the devourer heads from the other minis, and mount them in other carnifex arms. You can use the deathspitter arms, for example, to some good effect. If they don't look big enough, you can try to get 4 small devourers, cut the "lower" part of the devourer head and put them together two by two.
I've seen tons of different conversions, you can find some excellent examples in - ¦ Hive Fleet Moloch ¦>Hive Greetings<¦ although Marco Schultze is a real pro. He's quite a fan of covering the carnifex arm sockets with other bits (usually some armour), and mounting arms in other places, with great effect. (A drill and some GS and voilà)
The good part of tyranids is that they give us quite a loot of room for conversion
And about not being able to enter some competitions; it's related with a contract between GW and the holders of tolkien's rights (New Line Cinema?) and copyright issues. They (unfortunately) can't allow you to mix LOTR and WH parts and still take part in the competitions.
I've heard mixed replies about the LOTR parts thing, so I could be wrong... Not that it really troubles me that much, since I already have my own flying tyrant.
Last edited by kalender; June 5th, 2007 at 15:53.
If you want some extra twin linked devourers them it is easy to make them. Take either a venom cannon or a barbed strangler and cut off the gun barrel. Then stick several spare devourer gun barrels together, there will be plenty of spare devourers with Tyranid warriors and Gaunts. You can stick this larger multi-barreled devourer onto your gun making an alternative but no less valid twin linked devourer.
This thing is a Carnifex that I converted to have a twin lined deathspitter, I just wanted it to be nastier looking. I stuck thrre deathspitter gun barrels together and cut off a barbed strangler gun barrel. I then stuck them on in it's place. You can do the same thing with devourers.
Another question: I was wondering if the carnifex sprue had a bit for every type of biomorph. like Extra senses, reinforced chintin, etc. And are most players expecting 100% WYSIWYG on every model? Or would most players be more lenient in this regard?
Also, is it generally acceptable for tyranid players to employ mass dakkafexs in his/her army? Or do most players shun such tactics?
The Carnifex sprue has almost all the biomorphs. You can easily make what it doesn't have with the bits you aren't using. I prefer 'Nids that are 100% WYSIWYG, but I make exceptions for biomorphs that don't have pieces for them (IE, things like Bonded Exoskeleton and Reinforced Chitin).
It's totally acceptable for a player to mass Dakkas or Gunfexes in his army. That tactic is called Nidzilla. The trouble with it is that you'll only have enough room in the FOC to take 6 Carnifexi.
The Carnifex sprue has many but not all biomorphs. It has a head for enhanced senses, acid maw, bio plasma, tusked and a standard head. It also includes a spare right side for the standard head which shows regenerate. There is also a horn which can be used to show tusked on the other heads.
The spikes are for making thornback out of the standard carapace, there is also a spore cyst and spine bank carapace. There are some carapace pieces for extended carapace and an adrenal gland and toxin sacs. Obviously the sprues also include many of the Carnifex's weapons. The only weapons not included are rending claws and lashwhips.
If you want to make something such as reinforced chitin or bonded exoskeleton I suggest that you use spare parts and beef it up. The bigger it looks the more likely people are to believe that it has these biomorphs. Converting it in some way to show what you think these biomorphs might look like will be enough. If an opponent says they don't agree, remember your opinion on what these biomorphs look like is as good as his.
You can employ the use of many Dakkafex's in a swarm. Some people may grumble but that many big critters has a downside too. They are vunerable to hardcore assault units smashing into them and also powerful multi-shot weapons such as starcannon.
I have another newbie question... I've just started playing and my friend I play most often with has an Ork army.. it seems like he gets millions of attacks every assault... 2 attacks + 1 for 2 one handed weapon bonus + 1 for charge.. according to him. Is this correct? 4 attacks on a charge for some low grunt?
I couldn't find any clarification on that 2 one handed weapons rules and if its not correct, im being eaten alive with it.