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okay, so i have tried several lists against my friends chaos list and none have worked, and thu i am consulting the forum for advice

i usually beat him down til he only have one troop choice and a commander, but i never get further.

the guy i play against usually fields lists containing:
terminators, plague marines, mark of nurgle, defilers, sorcerers, land raiders and cultists.

so yeah, here is what models i have that i can use in the list (all boys are proxy-able as all other boy types)
40 boyz, 2 trucks, 1 looted wagon, 1 big trakk/battlewagon, 30 grotz, 5 stormboyz, 1 bomma, 3 meganobz, 9 nobz/gitz, snikrot, 2 warbosses, 2 meks, 3 buggies/traks

i hope fore some neat replies soon :)
 

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None have worked? You got him down to 1 troop and a warlord? Don't forget your secondary objectives. You rarely have to table an opponent in 6th to win the game. Sometimes you don't even need an objective!

Can you give an example of some of the lists you have run?
 

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we usually play with only one obj, but here are the lists i tried
1000, powerklaw core
HQ: 215 P
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WARBOSS 125P

powerclaw
shoota/skorcha
eavy armour
cybork
bosspole
pet squig


BIG MEK 90 P
pklaw
attack squig
eavy armor
cybork
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ELITES: 315 P
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meganobz 135P (3 meganobz)

shootaskorcha x3

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BURNAS 75P (5 burnas)
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lootas 105P (7 lootas)
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TROOPS 257 P
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shoota boys 111P (10 boyz, 1 nob)

nob
powerklaw
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slugga boyz 111P (10 boyz, 1 nob)

nob
eavy armor
powerklaw

TRUKK 35P
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HEAVY 225 P
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battlewagon(transport) 105P

3x big shoota
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looted wagon (transport) 60P
2x big shootas
skorcha
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big gunz (3 kannons) 60P





1000 mech
HQ: 215 P
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WARBOSS 110P

powerclaw
shoota/skorcha
eavy armour
cybork
bosspole


BIG MEK 105P
burna
kustom force field
cybork
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ELITES: 430 P
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nobz 150P (3 nobz)

eavy armorx3
bosspole
pk x2
shotskor x2
bc

nob1: power klaw, eavy, bosspole
nob2: shoota skorcha, eavy, big choppa
nob3: power klaw, eavy, shotskor
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BURNAS 75P (5 burnas)
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kommandos 205P (10 kommandos, snikrot)

rokkit x2 (anti tank flank since snikrot helps in CC if it comes to that)
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TROOPS 215P
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shoota boys 65P (10 boyz)

big shoota
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slugga boyz 112P (11 boyz, 1 nob)

nob
powerklaw
bosspole

TRUKK 35P
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HEAVY :175P
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battlewagon(transport) 110P

3x big shoota
grot riggers
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looted wagon (transport) 60P
2x big shootas
skorcha





750
HQ: 110 P
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WARBOSS 125P

powerclaw
shoota/skorcha
eavy armour
cybork
bosspole
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ELITES: 225P
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nobz with fatty gabbelz 150P (3 nobz)

eavy armorx3
bosspole
pk x2
shotskor x2
bc

nob1: power klaw, eavy, bosspole
nob2: shoota skorcha, eavy, big choppa
nob3: power klaw, eavy, shotskor
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BURNAS 75P (5 burnas)
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TROOPS 242P
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shoota boys 95P (15 boyz)

big shoota
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slugga boyz 112P (11 boyz, 1 nob)

nob
powerklaw
bosspole

TRUKK 35P
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HEAVY :175P
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battlewagon(transport) 110P

3x big shoota
grot riggers
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looted wagon (transport) 65P
2x big shootas
skorcha
riggers





i have been thinking of using this list next to see what happens:

1000 even more klaws

HQ: 280 P
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WARBOSS 120P

powerclaw
shoota/skorcha
eavy armour
cybork (cheaper cuz of grotsnik)
bosspole
pet squig
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mad doc 160 P


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ELITES: 285 P
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mega armored nobz (4 nobz) 170 P

2x shotskors
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nobz (3 nobz) 155 P

cyborks
2x PK
big choppa
2x shotskor
waaghbanner
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TROOPS 265 P
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'ard boyz (12 boyz, 1 nob) 165 P
alla har eavy armor

nob
powerklaw
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shoota boyz (15 boyz) 90 P (OBJ)

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HEAVY 160 P
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battlewagon(transport) 110P

kannon
2x big shootas
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looted wagon 40 P

1x big shoota
 

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Only one objective? LOL no wonder you are having trouble. Play using the 6th edition rules for deployment and mission type. (as well as secondary objectives). You'll find your gameplay is a lot more varied and fun, and less about trying to see who can brute force the other into submission.

Looking at your lists, they are lacking in troops. You should be looking at roughly 40 boyz at 1k. You also don't need two HQ's, and having two eats up a lot of your points. With careful adjustment, you can free up a ton of points without losing much at all.

In list one...
drop the big mek

drop the attack squib off the warboss
Turn the warboss into a megaarmored warboss with cybork. (It's less points then the way you have him configured right now!) Attach the warboss to the MANZ squad, give them their own dedicated battlewagon transport.
Battlewagon config.
Grot riggers, deff rolla, big shoota. (add more shootas as points allow)

drop the burna's (increase the loota's to 12)

Drop the trukks and their associated boys.

Drop the looted wagon, and replace it with a another battlewagon. (This gives you 3 battlewagons equally configured).
Fill the other two battle wagons with 19 shoota boyz + big choppa/boss pole nob. If you need points, drop the nobz entirely.

That gives you
3 AV 14 shielded wagons with vehicle destroying deff rollas.
80 str 4 shots out of 2 of the wagons
12 loota's providing str 7, 48 inch support
big guns providing support
one MANZ wrecking squad with a MAW leader.

Looking through the other lists, you need way more boys. Boyz before toys.
 
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