[s1lenthunter]

Hi, I'm new to IG (I play with SMurfs mostly, but I decided to try something new ). Anyways, I created an army list, as I already have half of these models already, but I did not consider this before I spent mucho moolah on them :shifty: I'm also considering raising the 1300pts to 1500pts to accomodate another Leman Russ or 2 more Infantry Squads...not quite sure yet, so I'm 20pts over at this point. All comments/suggestions are welcome because I'm not sure I know what I'm doing. Thanks!

HQ
Command Platoon

Command Squad
1 Senior Officer (LP/Carapace Armour/Power Weapon)
1 Master Vox
1 Medic
1 Standard Bearer
1 Guardsman (Meltagun)
123pts

Fire Support Squad
2x Hvy Bolters
1x Autocannon
85pts

Special Weapons Support Squad
3x Guardsman (LG)
3x Guardsman (Sniper)
65pts

ELITE

Storm Trooper Squad
1x Vet. Sarge (HP/CCW)
7x Storm Troopers (HG)
1x Storm Trooper (MG)
1x Storm Trooper (PG)
126pts

TROOPS
Infantry Platoon Alpha

Command Squad
1x Junior Officer (PP/PW)
3x Guardsman (LG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
60pts

Infantry Squad Alpha
1x Seargant (LP/CCW)
7x Guardsman (LG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
1x Guardsman (GL)
73pts

Infantry Squad Bravo
1x Seargant (LP/CCW)
7x Guardsman (LG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
1x Guardsman (GL)
73pts

Infantry Platoon Bravo

Command Squad
1x Junior Officer (LP/PF)
3x Guardsman (LG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
65pts

Infantry Squad Alpha
1x Seargant (LP/CCW)
7x Guardsman (LG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
1x Guardsman (Flamer)
71pts

Infantry Squad Bravo
1x Seargant (LP/CCW)
7x Guardsman (LG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
1x Guardsman (Flamer)
71pts

FAST ATTACK

Hellhound
Hunter-Killer Missile
Dozer Blade
Smoke Launcher
Track Guards
143pts

HEAVY SUPPORT

Leman Russ
Battle Cannon
Lascannon
Hvy Bolter Sponsons
Hunter-Killer Missile
Dozer Blade
Pintle Storm Bolter
Track Guards
Smoke Launchers
Improved Comms
223pts

Basilisk
Indirect Fire
Dozer Blade
Pintle Heavy Stubber
142pts

Total- 1320pts

 

[Diggums Hammer]

I'll Comment in between.

Command Squad
1 Senior Officer (LP/Carapace Armour/Power Weapon)
1 Master Vox
1 Medic
1 Standard Bearer
1 Guardsman (Meltagun)
123pts

Either take an HSO or drop the Vox, SOers are not worth it. Go all the way to an HSO or take JO. I would take the Doctrine Iron Discipline, and all JOs, You will save some points. Drop the Medic, Master Vox, and take a Mortar to keep out of LOS. You should give all IG squads heavy weapons.

Fire Support Squad
2x Hvy Bolters
1x Autocannon
85pts

Take all HBs or all Autocannons, but don't mix them, it helps to keep your fire focussed on either infantry or light armour.

Special Weapons Support Squad
3x Guardsman (LG)
3x Guardsman (Sniper)
65pts

My opinion on snipers is don't bother unless you are alway playing against Monstrous Creatures. Otherwise drop this squad.

Storm Trooper Squad
1x Vet. Sarge (HP/CCW)
7x Storm Troopers (HG)
1x Storm Trooper (MG)
1x Storm Trooper (PG)
126pts

Give them either two Plasmas or two Meltas, but again don't mix. Add Deepstike or Infiltrate, or put these glory boys in a Chimera.

Command Squad
1x Junior Officer (PP/PW)
3x Guardsman (LG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
60pts

Again missing a Heavy weapon, Plasma Gun and Iron Discipline

Infantry Squad Alpha
1x Seargant (LP/CCW)
7x Guardsman (LG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
1x Guardsman (GL)
73pts

The Strength of an IG army is heavy weapons. At least add a Heavy Bolter. Keep squads back in cover shooting. Moving guard squads are dead meat.

Infantry Squad Bravo
1x Seargant (LP/CCW)
7x Guardsman (LG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
1x Guardsman (GL)
73pts

Same as above.

Command Squad
1x Junior Officer (LP/PF)
3x Guardsman (LG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
65pts

Missing Heavy Weapon, or drop with 3 Meltas or 4 Plasmas.

Infantry Squad Alpha
1x Seargant (LP/CCW)
7x Guardsman (LG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
1x Guardsman (Flamer)
71pts

Definatly drop the 9" Flamer, and go with a Plasma Gun and a Missle Launcher. (a great combo)

Infantry Squad Bravo
1x Seargant (LP/CCW)
7x Guardsman (LG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
1x Guardsman (Flamer)
71pts

Same as above.

Hellhound
Hunter-Killer Missile
Dozer Blade
Smoke Launcher
Track Guards
143pts

It's important not to upgrade your IG vehicles too much. Add smoke and maybe EA, but drop everything else. A Heavy Stubber could be usefull on a Hellhound.

Leman Russ
Battle Cannon
Lascannon
Hvy Bolter Sponsons
Hunter-Killer Missile
Dozer Blade
Pintle Storm Bolter
Track Guards
Smoke Launchers
Improved Comms
223pts

Drop the Hull Lascannon for Hull Heavy Bolter and save some points, and drop everything else but smoke.

Basilisk
Indirect Fire
Dozer Blade
Pintle Heavy Stubber
142pts

Drop all but Indirect Fire. You can't fire other weapons when you fire Ordnance so your Heavy Stubber is better on the Hellhound.

You have the foundations for a good list, but to make IG effective you need IMO, HW's whenever possible, keep vehicle upgrades cheap, and either give your army very good leadership with Master Vox and an HSO, or quite good with Iron Discipline.

As a general note. Give all 10 man Infantry squads a heavy weapon and a special weapon. Give your command squad the same, or use them as drop-trooping specialists with Meltas or Plasmas to take out nasty targets.

 

[s1lenthunter]

ok...i've made some changes to my list...thanks for the advice...here goes...

HQ
Command Platoon

Command Squad
1 Heroic Senior Officer (LP/Carapace Armour/Power Weapon)
1 Master Vox
1 Medic
1 Standard Bearer
1 Guardsman (Meltagun)
138pts

Fire Support Squad
2x Hvy Bolters
1x Autocannon
85pts

ELITE

Storm Trooper Squad
1x Vet. Sarge (HP/CCW)
7x Storm Troopers (HG)
2x Storm Trooper (PG)
126pts

TROOPS
Infantry Platoon Alpha

Command Squad
1x Junior Officer (PP/PW)
1x Guardsman (PG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
1x Lascannon
80pts

Infantry Squad Alpha
1x Seargant (LP/CCW)
6x Guardsman (LG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
1x Hvy Bolter
75pts

Infantry Squad Bravo
1x Seargant (LP/CCW)
6x Guardsman (LG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
1x Hvy Bolter
75pts

Infantry Platoon Bravo

Command Squad
1x Junior Officer (PP/PW)
1x Guardsman (PG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
1x Missile Launcher
70pts

Infantry Squad Alpha
1x Seargant (LP/CCW)
5x Guardsman (LG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
1x Guardsman (PG)
1x Missile Launcher
90pts

Infantry Squad Bravo
1x Seargant (LP/CCW)
5x Guardsman (LG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
1x Guardsman (PG)
1x Missile Launcher
90pts

FAST ATTACK

Hellhound
Hunter-Killer Missile
Dozer Blade
Smoke Launcher
Track Guards
143pts

HEAVY SUPPORT

Leman Russ
Battle Cannon
Lascannon
Hvy Bolter Sponsons
Hunter-Killer Missile
Dozer Blade
Pintle Storm Bolter
Track Guards
Smoke Launchers
Improved Comms
223pts

Basilisk
Indirect Fire
Dozer Blade
Pintle Heavy Stubber
142pts

Total- 1337pts

For my vehicles, I bought them, assembled them to look sweet, painted them an Urban Camo scheme, and then decided to make an actual army out of them, so the tank accesories hafta stay, I'll try to make the most out of them tho :yes: And I'm going to increase the pt limit to 1500pts, so i need another 163pts to fill up with...any suggestions? I could add 2 more INfantry Squads (1 to each platoon in the 90pt and 75pt setups) and that would be 165pts...so I'd be 2pts over....maybe?

 

[Diggums Hammer]

Just because you have added the equipment on the vehicles, doesn't mean you have to take them for the points. I have Dozer Blades on a couple of my Chimeras, but I never take them for points.

 

[s1lenthunter]

Ok, reworked again...minus some of the accesories for the tanks and I upped the pts to 1500...does this list look good?

HQ
Command Platoon

Command Squad
1x Commissar (BP/CCW/Carapace Armour)
1x Heroic Senior Officer (LP/Carapace Armour/Power Weapon)
1x Master Vox
1x Medic
1x Standard Bearer
1x Guardsman (Meltagun)
184pts

Fire Support Squad
2x Hvy Bolters
1x Autocannon
85pts

ELITE

Storm Trooper Squad Alpha
1x Vet. Sarge (HP/CCW)
7x Storm Troopers (HG)
2x Storm Trooper (PG)
Infiltrate
136pts

Storm Trooper Squad Bravo
1x Vet. Sarge (HP/CCW)
7x Storm Troopers (HG)
2x Storm Trooper (PG)
Infiltrate
136pts

TROOPS
Infantry Platoon Alpha

Command Squad
1x Junior Officer (PP/PW)
1x Guardsman (PG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
1x Lascannon
80pts

Infantry Squad Alpha
1x Seargant (LP/CCW)
6x Guardsman (LG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
1x Hvy Bolter
75pts

Infantry Squad Bravo
1x Seargant (LP/CCW)
6x Guardsman (LG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
1x Hvy Bolter
75pts

Infantry Platoon Bravo

Command Squad
1x Junior Officer (PP/PW)
1x Guardsman (PG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
1x Missile Launcher
70pts

Infantry Squad Alpha
1x Seargant (LP/CCW)
5x Guardsman (LG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
1x Guardsman (PG)
1x Missile Launcher
90pts

Infantry Squad Bravo
1x Seargant (LP/CCW)
5x Guardsman (LG)
1x Guardsman (LG/VOX)
1x Guardsman (PG)
1x Missile Launcher
90pts

FAST ATTACK

Hellhound
Smoke Launcher
Track Guards
128pts

HEAVY SUPPORT

Leman Russ
Battle Cannon
Lascannon
Hvy Bolter Sponsons
Dozer Blade
Smoke Launchers
Improved Comms
193pts

Basilisk
Indirect Fire
125pts

Total- 1467pts

 

[Diggums Hammer]

O.K. Getting Better, a couple of things:

Give your Commissar a Power Weapon, you might as well have a better CC squad when needed.

I would still have three Heavy Bolters, but you might just have those models.

I wouldn't take the Vet Sgt in the Stormies unless you take a power weapon, otherwise a vet upgrade does nothing. You should add vox in these squads as well for LD10.

Move the Lascannon to a troop squad, and the Heavy Bolter to the command squad. That way the Lascannon will be shooting longer and not targeted out fast.

Other Infantry set up is good.

I still would drop the Track Guards on the Hellhound.

The Leman Russ kit is the only really bad set up in this new list . My Lemans have Hull HB, Sponson HB's, Smoke and that's it: 158 points. Yours is 45 points more than mine. You could buy a Sentinal for that. Improved Comms in really only good in a Drop trooping list or an all vehicle list, for yours it is a complete waste, as is the Dozer Blade.

Overall though, a world of difference vs the first one. This list will be way more competitive.

Good Luck, Cheers, DH.

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