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Hey Jhagadurn. Sorry you havn't been getting much of a response recently, personaly I havn't had the time to look over the army list section recently - but I'll start to try and get back on here regularly.

Jhagadurn said:
Doctorines:
Drop Troops
Veterans
Carapace Amor
Allow Special Weapon Squads
Allow Rough Riders


Senior Officer
4x guardsmen
-meltagun, master-vox
2x Special Weapon Squads
-6x democharge
-Carapace Armor
I would have a rethink of your command squad here. The sr. officer is only Ld8, so he is only worth taking for his improved CC characteristics (if at all). IMO, if a command squad is going to invest in a master vox, the HSO/Hornifica is a mandatory accompaniment, and direct fire weapons such as a Meltagun are a waste of points on a squad that dosen't want to see action. Drop the meltagun and use the points to buy hornifica.

I like your use of special weapons squads, however, each SW squad can only take 1 demo charge each and you can have a max of 5 squads. I think the 2x Meltagun/1x Democharge would fit best in your army personally.

Hardened Veteran Sergeant
9x Hardened Veterans
-3x Meltaguns
-Carapace Armor

Hardened Veteran Sergeant
9x Hardened Veterans
-3x Meltaguns
-Carapace Armor
I think if these squads are going to be dropping, keep them small. You don't want to be trying to get 10 men into a dropzone unscathed. 6 at most, but good otherwise. I always find deepstrikers with meltaguns an excellent and fun tactic.

Junior Officer
-Heavy Bolter
4x Guardsmen
Infantry Squad
-plasmagun
Infantry Squad
-plasmagun
-Carapace Armor

Junior Officer
-Heavy Bolter
4x Guardsmen
Infantry Squad
-plasmagun
Infantry Squad
-plasmagun
-Carapace Armor
Remember, all squads need to take carapace armour - so right there you have 120pts spent on it! Personaly I would rather take grenadiers as my troop choice in a deepstriking army. I know they don't drop, however, that is a 500pts troop choice, you will need to be rolling 6 re-enforcment dice to get it on, and once it is on half your men will die to deviation etc. and even the ones that will survive will be laughed at - as they only have a single BS3 plasmagun. IMO, basic guardsmen should only ever be used as line infantry.

If you take grenadiers, you can cut down the points and could even put them in Valkyries! I think they would be much more scarry as well.

10x Rough Riders
-Veteran Sergeant, w/Honorifica Imperials huntinlance and power weapon
-9x hunting lances
-Carapace Armor
Again, lovely fluffy unit here. As a note, you would have to take a HSO in your command squad as you have already used hornifica, but it's only an extra 5pts.

LR Battletank
-Extra Armor, Improved Comms, Hull Lascannon, Sponson Bolters

LR Battletank
-Extra Armor, Improved Comms, Hull Lascannon, Sponson Bolters
Good armoured support here, this should work out very well. However, I would always take the hull HB/sponson HB combo. Mixing HWs is never a good idea IMO, and the 3x bolter combo is an excelent one on a BS3 tank - cheaper too.

The compositional alteration I would make in this army is your use of deepstriking infantry squads. Also, you are a bit low on heavy weapons. Have you considered using Sentinels to fill the gap as mobile HW platforms?
 

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That's sweet Jhagadurn! I like to see a good fluffy unit deal some damage in game!

By the way, each infantry squad must take carapace individualy - trust me on this, but it is irrelevant as you have taken it out - just to let you know.

Just to clarify, I like the idea of your drop troops and wasn't advocating that you took an infantry line - I do think it is a good thing to have a mobile or dropping army, however - I just think infantry squads are only ever good as line infantry, and you will be soreley disapointed in game if you think they will work as drop troopers. What I was suggesting is that you consider other trypes of troop, even if it just to downsize your dependance.

However, it is a solid list with the line infantry in and I hope you have as much success with this as you did against those termies!
 
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