[Zangetsu]

HQ:
Mephiston-225

Elites:
Verteran Assualt Squad, 10 man, Power-Fist, 2 Meltaguns-220
Verteran Assualt Squad, 10 man, Power-Fist, 2 Meltaguns-220
Verteran Assualt Squad, 10 man, Power-Fist, 2 Meltaguns-220
Death Company, 7 man, 7 Jump Packs-35

Troops:
Assault squad, 5 man, Power-Fist, Plasma Pistol-180
Assault squad, 5 man, Power-Fist-165
Assault squad, 5 man, Power-Fist-165
Assault squad, 5 man, Power-Fist-165

Fast Attack:
Attack Bike, Multi-Melta, 50
Attack Bike, Multi-Melta, 50
Attack Bike, Multi-Melta, 50

Total-1745
MC:61

HQ:
Lemartes-125

Elites:
Verteran Assualt Squad, 10 man, Power-Fist, 2 Meltaguns, 2 Plasma Pistols-250
Verteran Assualt Squad, 10 man, Power-Fist, 2 Meltaguns, Plasma Pistols-235
Verteran Assualt Squad, 10 man, Power-Fist, 2 Meltaguns, Plasma Pistols-235
Death Company, 7 man, 7 Jump Packs-35

Troops:
Assault squad, 5 man, Power-Fist, Plasma Pistol-180
Assault squad, 5 man, Power-Fist, Plasma Pistol-180
Assault squad, 5 man, Power-Fist, Plasma Pistol-180
Assault squad, 5 man, Power-Fist, Plasma Pistol-180

Fast Attack:
Attack Bike, Multi-Melta, 50
Attack Bike, Multi-Melta, 50
Attack Bike, Multi-Melta, 50

Total-1750
MC:61

 

[darkreever]

I would go with that second list over the first; the extra special weapons available in the second list might do you more good than Mephiston. (And its better to only be spending about 10% of your total points on HQ's anyway...:C)

 

[Zangetsu]

I've been told to drop the Plasma Pistols in the second one for Two Baal Preadators.

 

[darkreever]

I don't have my BA codex on me at the moment, but can you even make two good baal's just by dropping all the plasma pistol's?

In an all infantry list, having one tank would actually hurt you because then all of your enemy anti-armour gets pointed at that one unit. Two at least draws only half the firepower to each tank. (Unless one gets taken out right away of course.)

 

[je_suis_roux]

I don't have the dex with me but those veteran assault come to 275 for 10 unupgarded and upgraded like you did is come to :

Verteran Assualt Squad, 10 man, Power-Fist, 2 Meltaguns- 320 not 220

Verteran Assualt Squad, 10 man, Power-Fist, 2 Meltaguns, 2 Plasma Pistols- 350 not 250

i like it but your points do not work i would advise recalculating

 

[Zangetsu]

Actually he said to drop the veterans down to 5 man and drop all the plasma pitols and one melta gun in each veteran squad.

 

[Zangetsu]

Heres my redone version of the list.

HQ:
Lemartes-125
Honor Guard, 5man, 5 Jump Packs, Power-Fist, 175

Elites:
Death Company, 8 man, 8 Jump Packs-70

Troops:
Assault squad, 5 man, Power-Fist, 165
Assault squad, 5 man, Power-Fist, 165
Assault squad, 5 man, Power-Fist, 165
Assault squad, 5 man, Power-Fist, 165
Assault squad, 5 man, Power-Fist, 165

Fast Attack:
Attack Bike, Multi-Melta, 50
Attack Bike, Multi-Melta, 50
Attack Bike, Multi-Melta, 50

Heavy Support:
Baal Preadator, Side Sponsen Heavy Bolters, Pintel Mounted Storm Bolter-135
Baal Preadator, Side Sponsen Heavy Bolters, Pintel Mounted Storm Bolter-135
Baal Preadator, Side Sponsen Heavy Bolters, Pintel Mounted Storm Bolter-135
Total-1750
MC:41
AC:3

 

[ForgedInTheFurnaceOfWar]

Your army is pretty close to what id field, heres my adjustments, at this point level:

HQ:
Lemartes-125

Honor Guard, 5 man, 5 Jump Packs, Power-Fist, 1 melta gun 185.

Elites:
Verteran Assualt Squad, 8 man, 2 power weapons, 1 Meltaguns.
Verteran Assualt Squad, 8 man, 2 power weapons, 1 Meltaguns.
Verteran Assualt Squad, 8 man, 2 power weapons, 1 Meltaguns.
Death Company, 10 marines, 140.

Troops:
Assault squad, 5 man, Power-Fist 165
Assault squad, 5 man, Power-Fist 165
Assault squad, 5 man, Power-Fist 165

Fast Attack:
Attack Bike, Multi-Melta, 50
Attack Bike, Multi-Melta, 50
Attack Bike, Multi-Melta, 50

Total 1725

56 jump infantry models, 3 bikes.

With the extra 25 points, you could put that into the veterans, or try to find an interesting upgrade for the honor guard.

Peace

 

[Zangetsu]

Hmm... I might try that in 5th. Here's a redone version of the list with more bodies.

Blood Angels Tournament Competitive 1750 List
HQ:
Lemartes-125
R^Honor Guard, Five man, Exsanguinator, All Jump Packs-185
Elites:
Veteran Assualt Squad, Five man, Power-Fis, Combat Shieldt-180
Veteran Assualt Squad, Five man, Power-Fis, Combat Shieldt-180
Veteran Assualt Squad, Five man, Power-Fist-175
Death Company, Ten man, All Jump Packs-110
Troops:
Assualt Squad, Five man, Power-Fist-165
Assualt Squad, Five man, Power-Fist-165
Assualt Squad, Five man, Power-Fist-165
Assualt Squad, Five man, Power-Fist-165
Fast Attack:
Attack Bike, Multi-melta-50
Attack Bike, Multi-melta-50
Attack Bike, Multi-melta-50

MC:51, with three bikes.

 

[ForgedInTheFurnaceOfWar]

Well its your army, so you should make it the way you like it.

But here are a few points you may want to consider-

My army Vs Yours Army

PF = 4 || PF = 7
PS = 6 || PS = 0
DC =10 || DC = 10
Models = 56 || Models = 51
MG = 4 || MG = 0

Unless you consistently play nids, I think my army fairs better against most opponents.

Consider that for 5 extra points, on the charge 2 power weapons will kill 2 MEQ models on average, at initiative 4, on the charge 1 powerfist will kill 1.68 MEQs, so slightly less at lower initiative. Now for MCs, my army has 4 powerfists, 1 MG, and 10 DC, more the most armies can dedicate to MC hunting.

Thus overall, in my opinion, my army can shoot and assault slightly better than yours. I think your armies are reasonable good, but they could be better.

Cheers,
Forged.

 

[darkreever]

Your post kind of loses me Forged, you begin by saying that it is Zangetsu's list and should be made the way he wants it to be, but then you seem to go off and push for a copy of your list to be made. I feel like I'm missing something there; I know your trying to suggest the better/best list since its competative but at the same time it doesn't feel like that.

 

[Zangetsu]

I can see what he's talking about. He's saying if I want to run mine run mine but, if I want to run more efficiantly run his. i do play nids more but, I would like something that is better alround.

 

[Zangetsu]

Wait forge the list you gave is 1850. Heres my new redone version of my list

HQ:
Lemartes-125

Honor Guard, 5 man, 5 Jump Packs, Power-Fist, 1 Meltagun-185

Elites:
Verteran Assualt Squad, 6 man, 2 power weapons, 1 Meltaguns-215
Verteran Assualt Squad, 6 man, 2 power weapons, 1 Meltaguns-215
Verteran Assualt Squad, 6 man, 2 power weapons, 1 Meltaguns-215
Death Company, 10 man, 10 Jump Packs-140

Troops:
Assault squad, 5 man, Power-Fist-165
Assault squad, 5 man, Power-Fist-165
Assault squad, 5 man, Power-Fist-165

Fast Attack:
Attack Bike, Multi-Melta-50
Attack Bike, Multi-Melta-50
Attack Bike, Multi-Melta-50

Total 1740

49 jump infantry models, 3 bikes.

 

[ForgedInTheFurnaceOfWar]

Hmm your right.. I must be too used to making 1850 lists.

Anyway, that list looks solid. Individual squads are small, but you'll have a larger overall number of assault models than most armies.

My mistake on the army list previously posted.

Perhaps another melta gun somewhere to finish up the list.

Peace

 

[Zangetsu]

It's okay. Thanks anyway you gave me plenty ideas to work with.

 

[Steel Nathan]

Well I'm going to put my 2 cents in. Firstly that's a sweet looking list you have there.

My real only issue that I have is the small army squads. If you don't plan it carfully then some lucky squad could charge up and eat them all. And a hail of shooting is all you need to have your guys run away. But then again there's a lot of them which could do mass damage to the guys that your going to face.

Something I just noticed: You posted this on January 28th? Firstly that was my birthday(Go me!) and secondly am I too late from posting this?

 

[Zangetsu]

No. I'll welcome any and all comments and critisms.

 

[Zangetsu]

Redone version after playtesting it.

HQ:
Lemartes-125

Honor Guard, 5 man, 5 Jump Packs, Power-Fist, 1 Meltagun-185

Elites:
Verteran Assualt Squad, 8 man, 2 power weapons, 1 Meltaguns-265
Verteran Assualt Squad, 8 man, 2 power weapons, 1 Meltaguns-265
Verteran Assualt Squad, 8 man, 2 power weapons, 1 Meltaguns-265
Death Company, 10 man, 10 Jump Packs-140

Troops:
Assault squad, 5 man, Power-Fist-165
Assault squad, 5 man, Power-Fist-165
Assault squad, 5 man, Power-Fist-165

 

[fumbles]

well, i have a suggestion. More of a comment really.

Lemartes isn't a HQ choice.

you can buy him with a single unit of DC, like Snikrott but he doesnt fill your HQ requirements.

 

[|Ultrafex]

Pretty sure this 2 year old post was using a different codex.