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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
So for my first post i thought id post my new 1850 list... Let me know what you think C&C please

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Chaos lord 90
Mark of Slaanesh
Daemon weapon
Personal Icon
Daemonic Steed

Total 170
(This is the only thing i dont like in the army But im useing the Lord and steed from fantasy and i like the Model to much)

Chaos Sorcerer
Lash of Submission
Mark of Slaanesh
Wings
Plasma Pistol

Total 160

Elites:

Chosen x5
Plasma gun x5


Total 165

Chosen x5
Plasma gun x5


Total 165

Chosen x5
Plasma gun x5

Total 165

Troops:

Plague Marines x5
Plague Champion
Plasma Pistol
Plasma Gunx2

Chaos Rhino

Total for squad + Transport 210





Plague Marines x5
Plague Champion
Plasma Pistol
Plasma Gunx2

Chaos Rhino

Total for squad + Transport 210

Fast attack:

Raptor x5
Aspiring Champion
Power Weapon
Plasma pistol
Plasma gun

Total 160

Heavy Support:

Oblierator Cult x2
Total 150

Oblierator Cult x2

Total 150

Oblierator Cult x2

Total 150
 

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You squads are a bit small. I mean running a squad of five is risky for more then one reason. I would suggest trying to get more men in your squads...especially your troop squads because you don't want to lose your troops. Try to get them up to seven or more...and for the raptors try to get them up to eight or more with lightning claws if you can afford it. And for the chosen, I like to run chosen but again five per squad is small. I would do away with one squad and work on getting the other squads some more guys.
 

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Discussion Starter · #3 · (Edited)
HQ:
Chaos lord 90
Mark of Slaanesh
Daemon weapon
Personal Icon
Daemonic Steed

Total 170
(This is the only thing i dont like in the army But im useing the Lord and steed from fantasy and i like the Model to much)

Chaos Sorcerer
Lash of Submission
Mark of Slaanesh
Wings
Plasma Pistol

Total 160

Elites:

Chosen x5
Plasma gun x5


Total 165

Chosen x5
Plasma gun x5


Total 165

Troops:

Plague Marines x7
Plague Champion
Plasma Pistol
Power fist
Plasma Gunx2

Chaos Rhino

Total for squad + Transport 210

Plague Marines x7
Plague Champion
Plasma Pistol
Power fist
Plasma Gunx2

Chaos Rhino

Total for squad + Transport 210

Fast attack:

Raptor x5
Aspiring Champion
Plasma pistol
Plasma gunx2

Total 160

Heavy Support:

Oblierator Cult x2
Total 150

Oblierator Cult x2

Total 150

Oblierator Cult x2

Total 150

That leaves me 23 Points i just need to add a model some where prolly a raptor makeing the squad size 6
 

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Sounds like a plan. The thing is running things in squads of five, if they take on casualty they can no longer hold objectives and such, so you want to avoid that as much as possible,
 

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Ya I am Very new to 40k i have yet to even play a game but i have studied the game alot before decideing to play chaos. The versatility the only thing im worried about is i heard a rumor that only troops will be Scoreing units if thats true then that only gives me 2... If that happens ill prolly drop the 2 squads of chosen and try to get 2 more Plague marine squads.. Can any one confirm that rumor?
 

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Socring units are infantry units....so the chosen and such should fall under this as well as the raptors...am not sure about anything else though...Any infantry unit though is considered a scoring unit.
 

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Discussion Starter · #7 · (Edited)
Thanks like i said there was a Rumor going around my local gameing store that ONLY Troop choices were going to be scoring units. So i have one last question without a 40k rule book around me right now what kind of rolls does it take to hit and to wound with a model that has WS 6 S4 (my lord) aginst a model with T4 or 5..
 

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To hit with a WS6, you need against either a 4 or 5...it is a three plus
To wound something with a T4 with S4 it is a 4 plus and to wound with a T5 you would need a 5 plus.
 

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Discussion Starter · #9 · (Edited)
Thanks a ton i just wanted to make sure that my lord has the ability to kill a Marine. Since all i need to do is wound once and Inflict Instant death via blissgiver i think he will be ok.. But he is about the same point cost as a winged DP with lash and i already have a Dp so if he really just doesnt do to that well ill prolly replace him with the Prince.


Also how would you all feel if i took out the plasma guns from the raptor squad and replace them with melta guns... i think that little bit more Anti-armor would be nice.. and i think i have enough plasma guns as it is lol. I think i am gonna stick the sorc in this squad and have them run around lashing things into CC and Busting tanks.. Good idea or No?
 

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HQ:
Chaos lord 90
Mark of Slaanesh
Daemon weapon
Personal Icon
Daemonic Steed

Total 170
(This is the only thing i dont like in the army But im useing the Lord and steed from fantasy and i like the Model to much)

if u do give this up use that dp with lash and wings my favourite :)
Chaos Sorcerer
Lash of Submission
Mark of Slaanesh
Wings
Plasma Pistol

no plasma pistol
Total 160

Elites:

Chosen x5
Plasma gun x5


Total 165

Chosen x5
Plasma gun x5

put them borth together as a unit of ten and have a powerfist guy

Troops:

Plague Marines x7
Plague Champion
Plasma Pistol
Plasma Gunx2

Chaos Rhino

Plague Marines x7
Plague Champion
Plasma Pistol
Plasma Gunx2

Chaos Rhino

lose the plasma pistols otherwise fine

Fast attack:

Raptor x5
Aspiring Champion
Power Weapon
Plasma pistol
Plasma gun

this unit i recommen being 7-10 men. replace the power weapon with a fist, get rid of the plasma pistol and the plasma gun and have two meltaguns

Total 160

Heavy Support:

Oblierator Cult x2
Total 150

Oblierator Cult x2

Total 150

Oblierator Cult x2

Total 150

solid chpoice :)
 

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Discussion Starter · #11 · (Edited)
Here is what it looks like atm i may drop some Plasma Pistols and Add more Raptors.

HQ:
Chaos lord
Mark of Slaanesh
Daemon weapon
Daemonic Steed

Total 165

Chaos Sorcerer
Lash of Submission
Mark of Slaanesh
Wings
Plasma Pistol

Total 160

Elites:

Chosen x5
Plasma gun x5

Total 165

Chosen x5
Plasma gun x5

Total 165

(dont want to combine these bc i will lose 5 to 10 Plasma gun shots)

Troops:

Plague Marines x7
Plague Champion
Plasma Pistol
Power fist
Plasma Gun x2

Chaos Rhino

Total for squad + Transport 281

Plague Marines x7
Plague Champion
Plasma Pistol
Power fist
Plasma Gun x2

Chaos Rhino

Total for squad + Transport 281

Fast attack:

Raptor x6
Aspiring Champion
Power Weapon
Plasma pistol
Melta gun x2

Total 185

Heavy Support:

Oblierator Cult x2
Total 150

Oblierator Cult x2

Total 150

Oblierator Cult x2

Total 150
 

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Discussion Starter · #12 ·
Im sorry to Bump my own Topic but after watching a few games tonight i feel pretty confident in this list....

HQ:

Daemon Prince
Wings
Mark of Slaanesh
Lash of Submission

Total 155

Chaos Sorcerer
Wings
Mark of Slaanesh
Lash Of Submission

Total 145



Troops:

Plague Marines x7
Plague Champion
Plasma Pistol
Power fist
Plasma Gun x2


Total 246

Plague Marines x7
Plague Champion
Plasma Pistol
Power fist
Plasma Gun x2

Total 246

Fast attack:

Raptor x8
Aspiring Champion
Power Fist
Plasma pistol
Melta gun x2

Total 235

Raptor x8
Aspiring Champion
Power Fist
Melta gun x2

Total 220

Heavy Support:

Oblierator Cult x2 150

Chaos Land Raider 220

Chaos Land Raider 220
 

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Here is the problem with land raiders....they are wayyyy to expensive...especially to run two of them....It is highly unneeded and not worth the points....invest in a squad of havocs with missile launchers and they will do more damage and be more effective...also try twin defilers instead of one....They work better in pairs...but I don't recommend running two land raiders...A)if they are immobilized you lose half the points and your opponent gains them, and then B) if they are destroyed your opponent gets the full point value for them...on top of that they will be targeted and such...It is not wise.
 

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Discussion Starter · #14 ·
After thinking about it i agree with you so... Lets see how you feel about this.....

HQ:

Daemon Prince
Wings
Mark of Slaanesh
Lash of Submission

Total 155

Chaos Sorcerer
Wings
Mark of Slaanesh
Lash Of Submission

Total 145

Troops:

Plague Marines x7
Plague Champion
Power fist
Plasma Gun x2


Total 246
Rhino
Combi Melta

Plague Marines x7
Plague Champion
Power fist
Plasma Gun x2

Total 246

Rhino
Combi Melta

Fast attack:

Raptor x8
Aspiring Champion
Power Fist
Melta gun x2
Icon of Khorne

Total 250

Raptor x8 160
Aspiring Champion
Power Fist
Melta gun x2
Icon of Khorne

Total 250

Heavy Support:

Oblierator Cult x2
Total 150


Oblierator Cult x2
Total 150


Oblierator Cult x2
Total 150
 

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HQ:

Daemon Prince
Wings
Mark of Slaanesh
Lash of Submission

Good choice.

Total 155

Chaos Sorcerer
Wings
Mark of Slaanesh
Lash Of Submission

Good choice

Total 145

Troops:

Plague Marines x7
Plague Champion
Power fist
Plasma Gun x2

Good choice.

Total 246
Rhino
Combi Melta

Good.

Plague Marines x7
Plague Champion
Power fist
Plasma Gun x2

Good.

Total 246

Rhino
Combi Melta

Good

Fast attack:

Raptor x8
Aspiring Champion
Power Fist
Melta gun x2
Icon of Khorne

Total 250

Good I would suggest IoCG instead of MoK because they are not a fearless unit. But either is good.

Raptor x8 160
Aspiring Champion
Power Fist
Melta gun x2
Icon of Khorne

Same comment as above.

Total 250

Heavy Support:

Oblierator Cult x2
Total 150


Oblierator Cult x2
Total 150


Oblierator Cult x2

I like the obliterators, But twin defilers might make it easier for your rhinos and daemon prince to not be targeted in the first turn, maybe even consider getting predators in there or something.
 

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Discussion Starter · #16 ·
The Only reason i want to use the Oblits is because when i started i was building a IW army.. so Guess what i bout 9 Oblits... and now im stuck with them I also have 2 Defilers so i think i will just play with both and decide what ones i liek best
 

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That is an awesome idea, which I highly recommend you do. I mean to take out one squad of two oblits is the same as to replace for a defiler with 4 CCW's so I would highly suggest toying around with both. But as I said I fear your rhino's and DP will be targeted due to lack of other armour in the list. So just be weary for that. Other then that I think this is a very solid list.
 

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So If i was to run the defilers i think i would drop the Icon of khorne to IoCG and add the 2x defilers with 4 CCW and Daemon poss. Sound reasonable?
 

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HQ:

Daemon Prince
Wings
Mark of Slaanesh
Lash of Submission

Total 155

Chaos Sorcerer
Wings
Mark of Slaanesh
Lash Of Submission

Total 145
Lash of submission is easily the most broken rule in the chaos codex. This is just exploiting it. You want to be able to have a fun game with your opponant and be able to play and enjoy. Your opponant is going to quickly get anoyed with this and either not play you again or tell you to stop playing a 'cheesey/beardy/unsporting' army. Drop one of the two above for somthing with a little bit more flavour, maybe an undivided winged lord with a daemon weapon or a Tzeentch sorc with a disc and wind of chaos.

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roops:

Plague Marines x7
Plague Champion
Power fist
Plasma Gun x2


Total 246
Rhino
Combi Melta

Plague Marines x7
Plague Champion
Power fist
Plasma Gun x2

Total 246

Rhino
Combi Melta
Your troop choices are quite good but you dont need the combi meltas on the rhinos, they are a waste of points. Try adding PIs to the plague marine champions for DS safe zones for the oblits.

Fast attack:

Raptor x8
Aspiring Champion
Power Fist
Melta gun x2
Icon of Khorne

Total 250

Raptor x8 160
Aspiring Champion
Power Fist
Melta gun x2
Icon of Khorne

Total 250
Two very good units here, great at close range anti armour and anti infantry. Excellant choices!

Heavy Support:

Oblierator Cult x2
Total 150


Oblierator Cult x2
Total 150


Oblierator Cult x2
Total 150
Nice choices. You have a few icons dotted around to that will help DSing these into combat range. as Meish said, two defilers would work well in here, coupled with lash the battle cannon can be devestating.

Dan
 
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