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Hi there...

I am new to 40K and miniatures in general... I have always liked the 40K art I see about the Internet and have wandered in and out of GW shops for years... Anyway I decided t ogive it a go..

So far I am not considering playing... though I plan to build a army that dose conform to codex so i can use it if i wish...

Anyway... I was hoping you guys could comment or advise me on some painting tips... remember this is my first ever ... be nice
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The BOX!!! Ok... I really like the art of Chaos.. as well as the whole back story. Still I was nervous about attempting Chaos Mariens and stuff as they seam to have tons of stuff all over them, that looked really fiddly to paint for a beginner.. So I chose Bloodletters.. as they wer basicly just red... so I thought it might be easier to start there.. and learn shading, and blending.



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I hand painted a coat of Undercoat Black that came with my citadel starter painting kit. I was worried about the detail getting all covered up as the paint looked pretty thick, so I watered it down and applied it in 2 coats.



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Ok this is my first attempt at colour. Now I only had the citadel starter painting kit and a couple of paints I picked off the rack when in the store.. and this is my first go.. mainly for learning technique... So do not be to harsh.
  • I did a coat of "Mechrite Red" as the base colour.. as you can see it is very patchy and way to much black is showing though... I defiantly should have done 2 coats of this.. Still I was trying to leave some black in the deep crevices and thought the other coats would cover this up.. witch they didn't
  • Then I did some highlights on it using "Blood Red"
  • Then some more highlights using "Blazing Orange"
  • Then did a "wash" using "Baal Red"
  • Then did a "wash" using "Deven Mud"
  • Did some more high lights with "blood red"
  • Did some "dry brushing" with white.

As you can see it is a bit of a mess... Basically i do not think i have ever recovered from not having done the 2 coats of the base colour... no matter what I do I can not seam to get it to look red.. it is always a muddy orange colour. Also as I only have a full white, and no yellowish paints really (just some "leather" looking ones I can not do the teeth or anything.

I think I will play with this more to work out techniques but next time try using a white base coat instead of a black one.... so everything is brighter, then use a darker "wash" to colour the crevices?



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looks good so far, after the black under coat, you can try brown then slowly mix in more red for each layer that might help
I wasn't using mixed paint.. just different colour paint.. are you suggesting I should start with a dark brownish / orangeish sort of then then slowly mix paint INTO the brownish paint on the pallet and apply it until after a few coats it is redder?

... the pictures are a bit small. It would be great if you made them bigger. :)
Weird... looks like this sites bbcodes can not handel having "img tags" as the name of the link....

so [ replaces <

<url="link.com/image.jpg"><img>thumbnail.com/image.jpg</img></url>

So that code dose not work.... unless I am doing something wrong.. when you click on it it simple loads the thumbnail bit as full screen. It is most likely as the there is some code built into the bbcode to auto make thumbnails or something....


Anyway... I have edited the original post and added links to the higher rez versions under the thumbnails. I will also add them here....

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They look good! My only advice I have for you now is to keep painting and you will get better with time. Whenever you want to try new things just go for it, if your're not sure how to do things just ask. It's pretty easy to find people willing to help. :)
 

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I have done more "stuff" to that original model... It is much more like what I was thinking in my head.. as a really blood red.. kind of thing now. I am looking at tutorials on varnishes as I want it to look wet.. as if they are actually weeping blood though there skin constantly. It remains to be seen if I can replicate this look on the other models as I have basically been practicing by "erasing it all" with a new base coat then having another go. So it is not like I can 100% do the same paint order or anything.

I tried my had at mixing.. . . I used a mix of Skull White, Mechrite Red and Iyanden Darksun (my only yellowish paint) to do the highlights this time.. I think it looks way better than the dry brushed skull white on the face or the Blazing Orange ... you saw in the 1st photos. As once I used Blazzing Orange originaly to do the highlights... I had no were to go to do the edges to pop out the detail... I think mixing my own paint got around this.

I also tried "blending" as in after i had the blood red look on the skin I would paint a thickish stripe of blazing orange on the muscle then wipe the brush and quickly try and push the paint down the muscles into the crevice. Then Highlight again with my mixed paint I spoke of b4.. I think this looks pretty good.. but the blending itself is not that well done... still in the shots I tried to get the left arm in full focus as i think it looks the best of the entire model.

Oh.. I also tried "glazing" as after the blending and highlighting the model looks a little orange/pink... so I got scab red (as my dark red) watered it down and painted a coat all over it. I did this twice.. and it basically muted the highlights nicely. If only I had a nice bright yellow I could probably call it quits on this skin test completely and try everything on a fresh model from scratch.

The Glaze was weird though... It "felt" like painting a "wash".. I am thinking i might have made it to weak. I think it would be better to test this on something larger and flat... when my new paints arrive with the yellows, purples and the metallics.. I will use this "glaze" idea to try and get a cool "flame" gradient on the sword.. I think that will be a good place to practice it.



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Try a few more layers of red. It looks like your black base-coat is showing through a bit much. It's better to paint with a darker shade of red, rather than let the base-coat do the darkening for you. Going with that latter option will make the model look patchy. You don't want patchy.
If you want to leave black showing in the deepest recesses, invest in some ink (or make your own). I make mine, which is painfully inaccurate and I'm paying the price for it. However, if you get a proper ratio (I refuse to ruin my bartending equipment but it might be best) that you can replicate as needed, you can save some cash. However you decide to have ink, use inking to get the black back onto the model. Remember- avoid using the basecoat for anything other than a basecoat, it should be felt, not seen.

Otherwise, good job, especially for a new painter! I know I wasn't nearly that advanced when I started painting!
 

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Well that is it for my first model... and on to teh 2nd!!! The bottom 2 pics on the image above is the based coated version of the one below... I uses a base coat over a white ... last time I painted directly over black.

Ok the trick here was to try and improve lol.... comments welcome.


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the arm looks good,
this is a test paint im working on


my recipe was black under coat, scorched brown, 1:2 brown and red gore, 1:3 brown red gore, a purple wash then highlighting with pure red gore,
to go brighter after the second mix of brown and red gore, 1:2 brown blood red thats the mixes i used for red robes for my vets
 
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