{2000} Dwarf Throng Of Karak Kadrin

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Wolf_Pack

Discussion Starter · Jan 30, 2006

Hey guys, I have finally got my hands on the dwarven mega force, and here is what I got lined up force Karak Kadrin, home of the slayer cult.

Keep in mind the fallowing:
- My lord for flavour reasons should not the defensively tooled up, but more offensively, wich is not that easy to do, I am open to suggestions.

Lords & Heroes

Dwarf Lord @ 306 pts
Great Weapon
-MRoKragg The Grim, RoCleaving, RoFury
Talisman
- MRoSpite, RoLuck
Oath Stone

Dragon Slayer @ 125 pts
Hand Weapon
-MRoAlric The Mad, RoFury

Dragon Slayer @ 125 pts
Hand weapon
- MRo Smiting, RoSpeed, RoFire

Core

20 Warriors @ 205 pts
Shields
Full Command

15 Warriors @ 155 pts
Great Weapons
Musician

12 Quarellers @ 161 pts
Greatm Weapons
Musician

Special

19 Hammerers 302 pts
Shields
Full Command
RoBattle

15 Slayers @ 165 pts

15 Slayers @ 165 pts

15 Slayers @ 165 pts

Rare

Goblin Hewer @ 130 pts

Should I ditch a unit of slayers and get some slayers pirates? I own the models, and like them alot, but I can seem to find 255 pts to fit them in (-165 would mean 90 pts), So I am open to suggestions on this as well.

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King Alriks Bodyguard

· #2 · Feb 3, 2006

Havent played with slayers for quite a long time but as far I can see, a unit of slayer pirates only do good as you lack a bit firepower.
I know you said it should be a offensive lord, but if you want him to survive just for a while, atleast give him a rune of stone. Im sure it would help it a lot and compensate for the shield.
I would also recommend using the master rune of swiftness for atleast one of your dragon slayers. Need to take advantage of all their attacks.
But else I think your army looks pretty solid. You could consider swapping the hammers for the IBs but its not a must.

Wolf_Pack

Discussion Starter · #3 · Feb 17, 2006

Here's another run at the slayer army list:

Ungrim Ironfist, Slayer King @ 465 pts

Dragon Slayer 125 @ pts
MRoAlric The Mad, RoFury

Core

20 Warriors @ 195 pts
Standard, Musician

20 Long Beards @ 305 pts
Standard, Musician
RoCourage, RoDetermination

12 Quarellers @ 159 pts
Shields, Musician

Special

15 Troll Slayers @ 165 pts

15 Troll Slayers @ 165 pts

Cannon @ 170 pts
RoForging, Valiant Rune, RoBurning
Engineer
Brace Of Pistols

Rare

15 Long Drong's Slayer Pirates @ 255 pts
Full Command

Models 104
Dispell Dice 4

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Cairocopter

· #4 · Feb 18, 2006

Too many slayers

I know that this force is aggresive, but I think you should drop a couple of slayers.

Oh, and replace the Quarrellers with some Thunderers, they shoot more accurately and strongly.

Wolf_Pack

Discussion Starter · #5 · Mar 1, 2006

Lords & Heroes

Deamon Slayer 210 @ pts
MRoSmiting, RoMight, RoFire

Dragon Slayer 125 @ pts
MRoAlric The Mad, RoFury

Rune Priest 147 @ pts
Shield
3 RoSpell Breaking

Core

20 Warriors @ 205 pts
Shields
Full Command

19 Long Beards @ 303 pts
shields
Full command
RoCourage, RoDetermination

15 Thunderers @ 230 pts
Shields
Musician

Special

15 Troll Slayers @ 180 pts
Giant Slayer

15 Troll Slayers @ 180 pts
Giant Slayer

Cannon @ 165 pts
RoForging, Valiant Rune
Engineer
Brace Of Pistols

Rare

15 Long Drong's Slayer Pirates @ 255 pts
Full Command

Dispell dice : 5 + 3 scrolls
Models : 107

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Thunderer

· #6 · Mar 1, 2006

I like the 1st list but would ditch the X-bows and grab a Organ Gun (gives you around 40 spare points). I have found machines to be decently tough if deployed in a wood line due to having to randomize hits against the machines toughness.

Why don't you include a converted BSB character with MRofGrungni and Guardian to move along with your slayer blocks.

Other than that great list and I always like to see slayer players. Not many people like the orange horde but I am very partial to them.

Cairocopter

· #7 · Mar 1, 2006

Thunderer said:
I like the 1st list but would ditch the X-bows and grab a Organ Gun (gives you around 40 spare points). I have found machines to be decently tough if deployed in a wood line due to having to randomize hits against the machines toughness.

Why don't you include a converted BSB character with MRofGrungni and Guardian to move along with your slayer blocks.

Other than that great list and I always like to see slayer players. Not many people like the orange horde but I am very partial to them.

I love slayer pirates with the festooned with pistols rule, shoots a hurricane of destruction.

Need lots of war machines with slayers otherwise they are easily beaten, methinks.

Goblin hewer rocks, probably best artillery in the game.:spell:

Wolf_Pack

Discussion Starter · #8 · Mar 1, 2006

I own the limited edition standard bearer, (twice may I add) but I find that I will waste that relloing ability with so many slayer units. To include him I would also have to drop that runesmith, and along with him my magical defense (any thoughts ?)

I also own the hewer, but it is the single most cheesy warmachine in the game ! hence why I don not field it. (my malakai and crew will serve for the cannon, they are unbreakable afterall ! )

I like the organ gun, but I fear I might and up with too few units and get outnumbered ?

If you guys do not think so, I will defenitly do so then.

Cairocopter

· #9 · Mar 2, 2006

Opinions.....

Wolf_Pack said:
I own the limited edition standard bearer, (twice may I add) but I find that I will waste that relloing ability with so many slayer units. To include him I would also have to drop that runesmith, and along with him my magical defense (any thoughts ?)

I also own the hewer, but it is the single most cheesy warmachine in the game ! hence why I don not field it. (my malakai and crew will serve for the cannon, they are unbreakable afterall ! )

I like the organ gun, but I fear I might and up with too few units and get outnumbered ?

If you guys do not think so, I will defenitly do so then.

The organ gun is actually very good, include it.

I love the goblin hewer, don't get put off by cheese. Wait till you get thrashed by Skyre...

I think you need the runesmith, slayers are affected horribly by magic.

Wolf_Pack

Discussion Starter · #10 · Mar 2, 2006

I realised I'll need something for skirmishers, and he organ gun is perfect for the job. either that, or a gyrocopter ^_^

GDMNW

· #11 · Mar 3, 2006

Whoah, what a general?

Do you really want a 300pt + general figure on the table?

Just a question!

Wolf_Pack

Discussion Starter · #12 · Mar 3, 2006

Zarahemna said:
Do you really want a 300pt + general figure on the table?

Just a question!

I last edition of the list doesn't include Ungrim Ironfist, as I find he takes a bit too much space. (although he as a nice fig, and a nice caracter also). I deamon slayer should be able to do what he does, whitout is wards save, and half the points.

Cairocopter

· #13 · Mar 3, 2006

Wolf_Pack said:
I last edition of the list doesn't include Ungrim Ironfist, as I find he takes a bit too much space. (although he as a nice fig, and a nice caracter also). I deamon slayer should be able to do what he does, whitout is wards save, and half the points.

I love the figure, and use him as a daemon slayer model most of the time.

Wolf_Pack

Discussion Starter · #14 · Mar 4, 2006

I've played in a tournament at my local hobby shop today, and grabed the gold. I think that I've got something going ith this list, here's what I used as a final copy.

Lords & Heroes

Deamon Slayer 210 @ pts
MRoSmiting, RoMight, RoFire

Dragon Slayer 125 @ pts
MRoAlric The Mad, RoFury

Rune Priest 147 @ pts
Shield
3 RoSpell Breaking

Core

20 Warriors @ 195 pts
Shields
Standard, Musician

19 Long Beards @ 293 pts
shields
Standard, Musician
RoCourage, RoDetermination

12 Thunderers @ 185 pts
Shields
Musician

Special

15 Troll Slayers @ 165 pts

15 Troll Slayers @ 165 pts

Cannon @ 145 pts
RoForging, Valiant Rune

Rare

15 Long Drong's Slayer Pirates @ 255 pts
Full Command

Organ Gun @ 120 pts

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Cairocopter

· #15 · Mar 6, 2006

Wolf_Pack said:
I've played in a tournament at my local hobby shop today, and grabed the gold. I think that I've got something going ith this list, here's what I used as a final copy.

Lords & Heroes

Deamon Slayer 210 @ pts
MRoSmiting, RoMight, RoFire

Dragon Slayer 125 @ pts
MRoAlric The Mad, RoFury

Rune Priest 147 @ pts
Shield
3 RoSpell Breaking

Core

20 Warriors @ 195 pts
Shields
Standard, Musician

19 Long Beards @ 293 pts
shields
Standard, Musician
RoCourage, RoDetermination

12 Thunderers @ 185 pts
Shields
Musician

Special

15 Troll Slayers @ 165 pts

15 Troll Slayers @ 165 pts

Cannon @ 145 pts
RoForging, Valiant Rune

Rare

15 Long Drong's Slayer Pirates @ 255 pts
Full Command

Organ Gun @ 120 pts

Good list final list, I especially like the long drongs. Are sure though you'll need 3 spellbreaking runes in this sort of game? 5 dispel dices are quite a lot...

Wolf_Pack

Discussion Starter · #16 · Mar 6, 2006

Cairocopter said:
Good list final list, I especially like the long drongs. Are sure though you'll need 3 spellbreaking runes in this sort of game? 5 dispel dices are quite a lot...

I have had a hard time managing undead armies with those 3 runes. I am used to 6 dispell dice and the wards of grimnir ^_^

Cairocopter

· #17 · Mar 7, 2006

Wolf_Pack said:
I have had a hard time managing undead armies with those 3 runes. I am used to 6 dispell dice and the wards of grimnir ^_^

If you're playing undead, take'em!

They're quite nasty - though use Rune of Fire against regenerating targets...

Wolf_Pack

Discussion Starter · #18 · Mar 8, 2006

Cairocopter said:
If you're playing undead, take'em!

They're quite nasty - though use Rune of Fire against regenerating targets...

Undead regenerating ?

Anyway, I think I'll drop either the cannon or the organ gun, I fear my army as gone too much to shooting, I would include instead a small unit of miners, and a unit of 6-8 slayers. Alternatively, a Gyrocopter would be nice ?

Cairocopter

· #19 · Mar 8, 2006

Wolf_Pack said:
Undead regenerating ?

Anyway, I think I'll drop either the cannon or the organ gun, I fear my army as gone too much to shooting, I would include instead a small unit of miners, and a unit of 6-8 slayers. Alternatively, a Gyrocopter would be nice ?

Get the Gyrocopter. Its invaluable at taking out those anoying skirmishers etc that'll ruin the slayer's day.

If you're dropping anything, drop the cannon, not organ gun.

Strollaz's rune is quite nice on the BSB for marching.

Thunderer

· #20 · Mar 9, 2006

@Wolf Pack: Couple of things to think about. What do you want your machines to do and can they be multi tasked?

Cannons: good for long range, character sniping, chariot poppers, no armor save. Bad against skirmishers.

Organ Gun: Medium ranged, excellent skirmisher/flier killer, decent for popping chariots, can dish out up to 10 hits per unit. Bad because less strength (harder to kill giants, chariots, uber character), allows reduced armor saves, may only do 2-4 hits per unit with a reroll.

I like to use an organ gun with some 2 BTs. BTs go after chariots/giants. In most cases I think the new organ gun is a better all around weapon than a cannon that will have to be runed up + ME to use it to its most effective manner.

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