2000pts, First Dwarf amy list. Come and dispense some wisdom to a Beardling!

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sovietspace

Discussion Starter · Jan 14, 2010

Hello you Longbeards of LO. Below I present my first Fantasy list since 2001, so please point out any obvious mistakes, or stupid ideas. This is not supposed to be a competitive list (which will be evident), but I would like it to hold its own. I've tried to get away from any form of gun-line, and I've taken some basic ideas from Podhammer (who's back catalogue I am quickly listening through!), but I have a feeling most people are going to tell me this list is a no-hoper. Still, you've got start somewhere!

So, here it is:

Lords/Heros

Dwarf Lord - 284pts
Shield & Great Weapon
Shield Bearers
MR of Kragg the Grimm, Ro Fury, Ro Striking, Ro Stone, MR of Spite

Runesmith - 149pts
Great Weapon
MR of Balance, Ro Spellbreaking

Thane - 101pts
Great Weapon, Shield
MR of Challenge, Ro Stone

Core

20 Longbeards - 265pts
Shields
Full Command

20 Warriors - 225pts
Great Weapons
Full Command

15 Rangers - 175pts
Shields
Full Command

Special

20 Hammerers - 305pts
Full Command
Shields
Ro Sanctuary

12 Ironbreakers - 211pts
Full Command
Ro Stoicism

Bolt Thrower - 75pts
MR of Immolation

Bolt Thrower - 70pts
MR Penetrating

Rare

Gyrocopter - 140pts

Total - 2000pts

So there it is. The Lord goes with the Hammerers, and the Thane goes with the Ironbreakers, hopefully tying up fast cav and the like with his challenges. Im not sure where I'd put the Runesmith yet, probably with one of the Warrior units. I considered putting him with the Bolt Thrower with MR of Penetrating, to make it less obvious to attack that one first (over the other one that blows up in your face), but I can see that equalling a dead Runesmith.

I would have loved to have fitted Strollaz's banner in there somewhere, but I couldnt find the points. I was amazed how expensive Dwarfs can be! Anyway, please let me know when you all think.

Many thanks!

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Mereclar

· #2 · Jan 19, 2010

Alright i will give it a try

I've just been told that teh great weapon on your lord is useless because you get one buying the ms rune of kragg the grim(voila 6 points extra!) Also i don't think u will need the rune of striking but i'm not sure..

What i really do miss is your BSB, I will never go to war without it!

I would consider taking the rangers, you want to avoid a gunline but a real dwarf should bring at last 1 handgun or crossbow, it will save points taking 10 thunderers or crossbows. Rangers are slow so you split your army, You could consider a unit of miners to get the enemies warmachines and small units.

About your warriors, i would advise to give them shield and get rid of the gw, they will get an as of 3+ instead of 5+ which make them a lot harder to kill.

You got some ironbreakers but in my eyes the unit should be bigger to at least 15(I mostly use 20) to make them work.

I would put away that rune of immolation on your bolt thrower and put a rune of penetration and a rune of burning on it. Just for the damage and the chariots, large targets etc.( and if you have the points, engineers for 15pts for the bs)

I hope i could help and have fun!:soldier:

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sovietspace

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jan 19, 2010

Thanks for your reply! Your advice gave me some food for thought, and much tweaking has been done to the list. #

I quickly realised the need for one more shooty unit, and the realitive rubbish-ness of the great weapon warriors, so that was a fairly simple swap. The rangers were also dropped.

As for the size of the Ironbreakers, I would love to make them bigger, but I just cant seem to find the points. And as they were meant to be a speedbump unit, I hope they will do well enough, especially with the rune that doubles unit strength.

Similarly with the BSB, I would love one but it seems like a lot of points to sink. For most armies I can see why the leadership tests re-roll would be great, but with Dwarfs, is it really that vital? A genuine question there, as my experience of fantasy is almost nil. I would love to get Strollaz's Rune in there somehow, but I just can't work out what I could sacrifice...

I've also made the Lord a lot more killy, as I think he was too defensive before. I've also added engineers to the Bolt Throwers, as I can see that BS4 being vital.

Anyway, please let me know what you think!

Lords/Heros

Dwarf Lord - 298pts
Shield
Shield Bearers
MR of Skalf Blackhammer, Ro Stone, MR of Spite

Runesmith - 149pts
Great Weapon
MR of Balance, Ro Spellbreaking

Thane - 101pts
Great Weapon, Shield
MR of Challenge, Ro Stone

Core

15 Longbeards - 205pts
Shields
Full Command

20 Warriors - 205pts
Shields
Full Command

15 Thunderers - 225pts
Shields
Standard & Musician

Special

20 Hammerers - 290pts
Full Command
Shields

12 Ironbreakers - 211pts
Full Command
Ro Stoicism

Bolt Thrower - 90pts
MR Penetrating
Engineer w/Brace of Pistols

Bolt Thrower - 85pts
MR Penetrating
Engineer

Rare

Gyrocopter - 140pts

Total - 1999pts

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Mereclar

· #4 · Jan 20, 2010

Right

The master rune of skalf black hammer is very expensive, but it's great although!
But if you would consider to give your lord a great weapon and the master rune of krag the grim + rune of cleaving you got already strength 7 and you also can get rid of the shield because your shieldbearers also give you an armour bonus.
It will save you points but it won't make you kill a greater deamon.

What i would do is reduce the thunderers to 10 and put your longbeards to 20(I think 15 is too big for a shooting unit, they will be gone if they will be charged)

And with your bolt throwers i would put away the brace of pistols and take the rune of burning. Also because you never can have a unit, character or warmachine with the same runic combo's, it's just not alowed.

I really could'nt say anymore about it.

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SON OF GRUNGNI

· #5 · Jan 31, 2010

In your second list then I think that you should increase the size of the long beards unit to at least 20 just so you get gud rank bonus.
Also, fifteen thunderers is a bit of and impractical number cos you probably won't be able to line them all up so your relying on a hill in your deployment zone.

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