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Okay point was to make a list that is fast and shooty.

Hero

Dreadlord
Black dragon
Crimson death
armour of eternal servitude
Pendant of kaeleth
Seadragon cloak


Sorceress
Dark steed
Dispel scroll
Dispel scroll


Sorceress
Dark steed
Dispel scroll
Dispel scroll


Core

Dark riders x 5
Musician
Repeater crossbows

Dark riders x 5
Musician
Repeater crossbows

Dark riders x 5
Musician
Repeater crossbows


Dark riders x 5
Musician
Repeater crossbows

Dark riders x 5
Musician
Repeater crossbows


Harpies x 7

Special

Cold one chariot

Cold one chariot

Cold one chariot

Rare

Reaper bolt thrower

Reaper bolt thrower

Reaper bolt thrower

Reaper bolt thrower


Total is 2247 points.

Fast moving, (besides RBT)

Soften them up until I can almost gurantee that the chariots will charge and overrun into something else.

Basically giving my opponents a choice.

Dark riders, dragon, chariots or RBTs. Gotta focus fire something while everything else shoots back at you.

Opinions?

Glavas
 

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are your wizards 2nd level? Why have you spent 100 points on scrolls?

Is there a reason why you went with crimson death on the dragon over death piercer or a normal lance? Normally dragon lords break what they charge the turn they charge, so all the time s6 isn't as useful as Killing blow or 19 free points can be.

Everything else seems fine, though I think 2 chariots and 1 unit of CoKs might be good idea to try. Chariots are slower than block units marching, for some strange reason. Getting a flank is actually harder than it sounds. A faster knight block added could add versatility.
 

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are your wizards 2nd level? Why have you spent 100 points on scrolls?

Is there a reason why you went with crimson death on the dragon over death piercer or a normal lance? Normally dragon lords break what they charge the turn they charge, so all the time s6 isn't as useful as Killing blow or 19 free points can be.

Everything else seems fine, though I think 2 chariots and 1 unit of CoKs might be good idea to try. Chariots are slower than block units marching, for some strange reason. Getting a flank is actually harder than it sounds. A faster knight block added could add versatility.
No they're not lvl 2. Don't see the point. 100 points on scrolls too much? I'm a very magic heavy LM player. At my local club I play against a DE player who's yet to win a game against me. Generally steamroll him with magic.

I was thinking the same thing about the CoK's. But then I thought that maybe the chariots don't even need a flank? Just charge straight into the front? Chariots move slowly so I thought by the time they're there and ready for a charge they should be able to break whatever they charge first turn.
 

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If they combine charge I could see them breaking a unit. But a single chariot? d6+1 S5 impact, is 4.5 hits, 2 attacks at s5, and 2 at s4, does add up. It is in fact enough to really hurt normal R&F units. But against harder S4 good save units, even if they have lost some SCR from shooting, there is still a chance your chariot could fail to actually break the enemy.

S3 shooting from DR isn't as effective as it sounds. If you move, shoot from half range, and fire 2x shots, you end up hitting on 5s. If you fire at more than half range , it is hitting on 6s. So a volley of 10 shots from 5 dark riders hits about 4 times. Against T3 models it cause 2 wounds. So 50 shots from dark riders would cause 10 wounds. Some of those are going to be saved against. Against T4 infantry, it isn't even that effective.

I am a big proponent of dark riders, but their shooting isn't going to create the mass casualties army wide needed to beat all armies.

Yes, 300 points for 2 dispel dice and a 4 scrolls is too much. 1 caddy? sure, it isn't terrible. 150 points for 2 scrolls and a dispel dice is pretty good. But since you aren't going for an offensive magic assault, why not go with the ring of hotek on a master? It is going to do a much better job of stopping magic than one use items will. When someone rolls 3 dice, there is about a 47 percent chance of a miscast.
 

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Hero

Dreadlord
Black dragon
Deathpiercer
armour of eternal servitude
Pendant of kaeleth
Seadragon cloak

Heay armour

Sorceress
Dark steed
Dispel scroll
Dispel scroll


Master
Cold one
Crimson death
Ring of Hotek
Heavy armour
Seadragon cloak


Core

Dark riders x 5
Musician
Repeater crossbows

Dark riders x 5
Musician
Repeater crossbows

Dark riders x 5
Musician
Repeater crossbows


Dark riders x 5
Musician
Repeater crossbows

Dark riders x 5
Musician
Repeater crossbows


Harpies x 6

Special

CoK x 5
musician

CoK x 6
musician

Rare

Reaper bolt thrower

Reaper bolt thrower

Reaper bolt thrower

Reaper bolt thrower

2245 total now. Opinions?

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Your dreadlord has an error, you already have armor of eternal servitude, you can't also use heavy armor. I think you are wanting the shield instead.
 
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