[mbj666]

hey guys am after some advice on my 2k list that is going up against my mates damned tomb king army with 2 SS catapults and the TK and his chariots

here is first bash please pull apart at you see fit


Master (gen) to go with cold one unit with FC
cold one, HA, SDC, SH, pendent of khaleth, Sw of Str +1

Master to go in black guard unit with ASF banner and Str 7 for those chariots
HA, SDC, SH, Potion of str, Sw of battle

Sorceress Lvl2 to go in black guard of RXBow unit???
staff of sorcery, tome of furion

Sorceress Lvl2 to go in warrior unit
dispelx2

18 black guard with std of hag graef and FC tower master with crimson death

5 cold one knights with FC and std of cold blood (gen in here)

5 cold one knights

5 dark riders with RXbow

20 warriors with FC and shields

10 RXbow men with musician

10 RXbow men with musician

2 bolt throwers


basic thought is to hammer his chariot unit with fire whilst cold ones deal with the catapults, hopefully luring his chariots into my black guard

any help appreciated as his army is always a nightmare for me

 

[notabot187]

I would try to aim for 5-6 dispel dice and a scroll or two. That is generally a good amount, and against TKs, it pretty important to prevent urgency (almost always stop this) and smiting.(also stop it if it is on catapults)

So I would drop one of the masters, and upgrade to a supreme sorceress. Then I would give the remaining master seal of ghrond. that will get you to 6 dispel, and you will then have a potent magic phase of your own.

Then reason why I advocate a potent magic phase is TKs are pretty decent at shooting elves, and chillwind is a sure fire way of stopping shooting.

S7 is nice, but you honestly should be able to hit chariots hard enough with volume that they die. They are after all, only T4 with a bad save. So the can opener master isn't really needed.

I would go with a hydra over the throwers, since the hydra can survive the impact hits, and can maul just about anything the TKs bring. The flame template is also very nice if he brings a block or 2 to anchor his lines.

Cold one knights don't need FC, even if you put the general in them. The options are too expensive for the benefits received. The banner and Standard of cold blood is all you really need, and even then not absolutely needed.

If you want to take the list into another direction, a dreadlord with hydra blade and potion of strength will get 4+d3 attacks at S7 (for one turn) at a very nice WS, with hatred. Put him on a dark mount, and run him right at a chariot unit and watch the wheels fly. I'm betting that he can kill at least 4 chariots doing that.

 

[mbj666]

thanks for the advice, forgot about chill wind right here goes have tweaked to reflect a bit of both your tips

Master (gen) to go with cold one unit with FC with the Str7 goodness
cold one, HA, SDC, SH, Potion of str

Supremem Sorceress Lvl3 to go in black guard
staff of sorcery, pendent of khaleth, Power stone

Sorceress Lvl2 to go in warrior unit
dispelx2

18 black guard with std of hag graef and FC tower master with crimson death

5 cold one knights with FC and std of cold blood (gen in here)

5 cold one knights

5 dark riders with RXbow

20 warriors with FC and shields

10 RXbow men with musician

10 RXbow men with musician

2 bolt throwers

any further tweakage you can see???

thanks,

mat

 

[notabot187]

Well getting that SS up to level 4 is probably more important than the pendant or power stones. I don't think I can stress enough how good number 6 is against TK block units, or how useful blade wind is against war machines. Increasing your chances of getting those spells (and number 1) is pretty important in my book.

For the same 500 points you could have:

Lvl 4: staff of sorcery, dispel scroll
lvl 2: tome of furion, seal of ghrond,

This configuration gives you +1 Dispel dice, 1 more power dice, and 2 more spells. All you lose is a scroll and ward save that you don't need.

 

[mbj666]

thanks for the advice happy with the list now

8PD, 6DD with +1 dispel and a scroll in reserve

Master (gen) to go with cold one unit with FC with the Str7 goodness
cold one, HA, SDC, SH, Potion of str

Supreme Sorceress Lvl4 to go in black guard
staff of sorcery, dispel scroll

Sorceress Lvl2 to go in warrior unit
tome of furion, Seal of ghrond

18 black guard with std of hag graef and FC tower master with crimson death

5 cold one knights with FC and std of cold blood (gen in here)

5 cold one knights

5 dark riders with RXbow

20 warriors with FC and shields

10 RXbow men with musician

10 RXbow men with musician

2 bolt throwers

 

[mbj666]

oops was 25 pts light so added the other dispel scroll back in, corrected list is:

8PD, 6DD with +1 dispel and 2 scrolls in reserve

Master (gen) to go with cold one unit with FC with the Str7 goodness
cold one, HA, SDC, SH, Potion of str

Supreme Sorceress Lvl4 to go in black guard
staff of sorcery, dispel scroll X2

Sorceress Lvl2 to go in warrior unit
tome of furion, Seal of ghrond

18 black guard with std of hag graef and FC tower master with crimson death

5 cold one knights with FC and std of cold blood (gen in here)

5 cold one knights

5 dark riders with RXbow

20 warriors with FC and shields

10 RXbow men with musician

10 RXbow men with musician

2 bolt throwers