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Hello all, both grizzled veteran and errant youth.

New life has been restored to these 'experienced' limbs and I have returned to the Quest with a much younger vigor. Dusting off the brushes and shaking the pots of paint I have once again immersed myself in the world of miniatures and wargaming. A great deal of this reason is that I have had time to adjust to the injustice handed out to fantasy players (IMHO of course) by the rapid exodus from End Times into the Age of Sigmar. The reason for my revival would go to my son who has recently taken a great interest in the miniatures that I have displayed in my cave. So I find myself once again standing on the field of battle with hobby knife and clippers. With that said lets move on.

The one thing that I find myself enjoying about the changes to fantasy would be the bases. My knights have more clearances and warriors of chaos look pretty good on a 32mm scenic base. And with this extra room comes more conversions.

And now for the true reason for this thread: I will start by undertaking (2)two challenges. The first will be a Skaven host done up for my son, chosen due to the fact that my wife has a slight rodent phobia (sometimes I can not help but love my sons choices). And I will once again take up the call of the lady for this one and field the knights of Bretonnia on new bases.

Skaven Horde (So far)
Most of these are built and based. Just need to start painting these guys while I work on assembling the Bretonnian's

- Grey Seer
- Warlord ( IoB )
- Warlock ( IoB )
- 3 units of 20 Clanrats ( IoB )
- 4 Rat Ogres ( IoB )
- 2 Packmasters ( IoB )
- 2 Wind Globes ( IoB )
- 2 Flame Teams ( IoB )
- Doomwheel (Not Built Yet)

Bretonnian Army (So Far)
I got a hold of a battalion box from a LGS for $50 (box had some water damage but all models inside were fine) so I will start with them and then build more later.

- Lord on Horse (WIP)
- Paladin on Foot (Hermit Knight Conversion)
- Paladin on Horse (Battle Banner Conversion)
- Damsel on Horse (WIP)
- 8 KotR (New)
- 30 Men at Arms (Yes I finally purchased some peasants after collecting bretonnia for nearly 18 years)
- 2 units of 12 Archers (Half done the other new)
- Pegasus Knight
- 6 Questing Knights (WIP)

For now this is simply a placeholder for the project since I still need to take some photos this week of the progress so far. I am excited to get back into the hobby full swing once again and it is nice being back on Librarium Online. I see that there are still a few familiar names out there.

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Ooh excellent, and welcome back!
Glad to see someone jumping in on AoS, or any iteration of the ol' "Sword'n'board" game.
I agree, your son's choice of army is indeed well informed ;) And I think I remember your old Bret project as well (although, might be been MDSW's).
Just remember - GW themselves have said that base-size is a non-issue in AoS. You could run square bases if you liked, on the chance that after some exposure to AoS, you and/or your son decide to backtrack into 8th, or start in on '9th Age' or 'Kings of War.'
 

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Thanks for the reception guys.

As for your question Borak, my son has recently turned 6 so the hobby portion has been taken care of by myself but I do have 60+ Clan Rats looking at me right now (for the projectso I may let him go nuts on the painting there. I might cheat a little and have him basecoat them all then dip them for the shading and then together we will go back and paint in the cloth and armour. I am not too concerned with these guys since I was able to grab two boxes of IoB for $50 CAD each then turned around and sold all the HE Blademasters and Ellyrian Riders for $90. So in the end all of his Skaven cost me $10 and I have a couple of griffons left over to possibly try my hand at a hippogriff with the old King Louen model.

We are setting up an old escalation league between the two of us where we will battle every Sunday morning for the next two months while these armies form up.

And now to get some photos taken .... (Never was my strong suit but will try and snap a few tonight to get things started).

One question I will throw out there for those veteran painters still lurking out there. I am interested in converting a group of Questing knights and want to paint them dirty and worn (faded heraldry and things like that). Any methods out there that you have tried and succeeded at? Just gathering information right now.

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Trying a post from my phone, so apologies if this doesn't work.

I have a few photos here (again from my new phone) to start some images of the Skaven I have assembled and then the Bretonnian Lord model I am updating as well as a Hermit Knight I am putting together.
 

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Missed it on the first one and I have a funny feeling that these may not come out right either. I miss my computer.
 

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Yes it was Borak, and thanks for the compliment. A buddy of mine had hinted at doing this with his own wolves and I thought I would give it a try. The first wash across the top ridge was two separate passes with Nuln Oil and then I simply built up the rest with Agrax Earthshade starting over a greater surface then progressively adding more washes as I made my way back to the top. I will try to grab a photo tonight from the side so that you can see what I mean. Turned out pretty good for the amount of effort required to achieve it.

Assembled my Archers last night and hope to get the Men-at-Arms done today so then I can start batch painting them and the many, many, many clan rats. Hopefully I can find a quick way to get through all them quickly enough.

The 'Hermit Knight' is also made up of the Wight King body as well, the shield is the Bretonnian shield that comes from one of the ogre sets. I will work on a few close-ups of him as well. The goal with him is to paint him up pretty dirty and then throw him along with a Damsel on foot in with the Men-at-Arms.

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So I have been assembling peasants like crazy the past couple of days and there is an end in sight. Currently have a unit of 12 new archers and just placing the finishing touches on 25 Men at Arms. I decided to do a little kit-bashing on a large command unit, which of course will count-as regular peasants when completed. I am hoping to bring this unit up to an even 30 for now and may go as deep as 40 to finish off the unit (reminds me of my marauder horde days...).

On a side note I have begun to look at converting questing knights out of WoC upper bodies with sculpted legs. This way I could use their Great Weapons without having to cut away too much and they already sit bigger than the Bretonnian knights. I am mocking up one this weekend and test fit it to the Bret horses and then the WoC knight horses to see which will look better. Who knows, this may be a bit of a stretch but could still turn out cheaper than purchasing 5 knights at $89 (CAD)

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Someone said the 'magic word' (or was that, 'Marauder Horde'?) Anyway, I HAD to pop back in!
The army looks good, and yeah, it's almost definitely your log that I was remembering.

That wolf looks ace, too. I have some of the bigger wolf cav to paint up for my Chaos army, so I might have to try that out.

As for Chaos Knights - I'm not sure. If you leave the shoulders off, they might not look too bulky at all. Otherwise, you could always just shave them down a bit (they have skulls and spikes and icons on their chests anyway) and scuplt some billowy-looking tabards and surcoats over them to help hide the unbalance. That, or just use the entire Chaos Knight horse and legs, just make things really easy. If your gonna sculpt a whole set of legs, wouldn't it be easier to just modify the CK sets?
 

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Thanks for the response Captain. As for the sculpted legs I was only going to use that method if I used the upper portion of the chaos warrior body. I am after the ragged cloak with fur over the shoulders kind of look possibly using a bare head with beard to create a unit of veteran knights which had the look of questing for decades. In a way create a more tougher looking knight unit for the Age of Sigmar setting. I have one partial cut right now so maybe tonight I will see if I can set him up. I may actually utilize the knights (WoC) legs for this as well. Just putting together the last of my peasantry command unit (went a little too far on the converting so taking a little more time than I thought) and I have 8 new horses for a unit of KotR.

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The ruin is a piece from the Lord of the Rings Scenery pack I picked up a few years back and have been cutting and filing down for my Pegasus bases. I used some in my other project thread to get some height variations between them.

Thanks for the comments on the Hermit Knight. He was fun to put together, and hopefully he will be fun to use this coming weekend when I test him out in combat.

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So thanks to March Break and the fact that my wife and kids took a trip down to Niagara Falls last night I had some time to paint and model with the house all to myself (and watch some Sons of Anarchy while working). Currently working on painting up my Bretonnian LOrd/Paladin with wolf and started sculpting on my Grail knight champion as well as putting together some bases. I will post a picture of the Lord when complete but tonight I will grab a couple progress shots on the Grail Knight.

I am using a chaos knight as the base for the conversion with a head swap for the horse so far and filing down the icons. The only wall that I have encountered is what to do for the helm. With the Grail Knight I do not want the bare head look so that I can give it a more ethereal/regal feel during the painting process. May have to test the limits of my sculpting skills on this helm. Any suggestions/tips would be welcome.

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Why not just use the Chaos Knight helms? Another option might be Space Marine heads, particularly the Black Templars, Grey Knights, and Dark Angels ones? You'd have to cut the "ears" and piping off, but I think the scale should look fine.

Failing that, use the Chaos Knight helms as a base, and make "frog mouthed" helmets, like you see for jousting. Shave the horns off, and then cut out the bridge of the nose to connect the eyes into one continuous slit. Use a little flattened square of greenstuff, and plop it on from the base of the helm to just under the eyes. Use a wet finger/knife to blend the sides into the helmet, use the flat of your knife to put a ridge down the front, and then square off the top protrusion beneath the eyes.
 

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Nice stuff here. I'd like to see more photos, but I particularly like the hermit knight.

Shame that Bret stuff seems likely to get Squatted sooner or later...
 

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Thanks for the kind responses guys. And Captain I have begun work on three options for helms for this guy and one of them is indeed using an existing chaos helm and a piece from the Blood Angels upgrade pack that I grabbed from a buddy of mine. I am also looking to modify one of the helms that came in the Empire Knights box, it's a little more high renaissance but could still work.

As promised here are some WIP pics of the knight in question with a Pegasus champion I quickly put together the other day.

Grail Knight 01.jpg
Grail Knight 02.jpg
Pegasus 01.jpg
Pegasus 02.jpg

Now for some more painting tonight. My son is back so maybe we'll get started on his Skaven as well.

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Hi Dad!! Great work, as always. I really enjoy your kitbashing as it brings a whole new dimension to the army. Your beginning work on the chaos conversion looks to be shaping up to quite the bad-ass Bret knight!!!

Keep it up!!
 
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