[TheCage]

Quick question. Why take it? Why not just take a power weapon for the Sybarite or whatever? Is it worth the 5 extra points?

 

[Grey]

Take it.

Its is extremely worth the 5 extra points.

It wounds ANYTHING on 4+ and can even hurt vehicles if you get lucky. So, marines, carnifexes, wraithlords....whatever. 4+, no save.

That's worlds better than a Str 3 power weapon which will only hurt other T 3 creatures on a 4+.

Basically, the only real choice is between the Punisher or the Agonizer. I think a mixture of the two is the way to go.

 

[karantalsis]

Grey is quite correct, aginst toughness 3 troops the punisher is by far superior allowing 3+ wounding, but aginst anything above toughness 4 you want the agoniser, its great to feed two squads to a wraithlord/avatar/hive tyrant/ chaos lord and be almost certain that no tonly will they hold it but they will win the inevitable war of attrition. Go sybarites! (it also makes your squad come to 176 points in a 15 man squad, I like squads that cost 176 points, 10 man raider squad, 15 man foot squad, 6 man wyche squad all 176, its the best points value ({), OK I'm getting a little delirious. I'll be quiet.)

 

[Neferata]

Only unit that I would consider giving a power weapon to would be a lord on a bike (seeing as how you can potentially get a S6 lord). It might also be worth it for a bike succubus (as it would be the same as giving a punisher to a succubus on foot).

 

[Tenozuma]

Does this mean that all wych cult units should be armed with punisher + tormentor helm(power wepon + tormentor helm for bikes) instead of an agoniser + pistol just in case you get the +1 strength drug?

 

[brushman]

I usually give my lord Agoniser (and other essential wargear). The only time when I'll take punisher is when against Imperial Guard or other low toughness armies.

 

[ArchonAstaroth]

Does this mean that all wych cult units should be armed with punisher + tormentor helm(power wepon + tormentor helm for bikes) instead of an agoniser + pistol just in case you get the +1 strength drug?

If you don't expect to face T5+, that's how it should be done.
Otherwise you're better off with the agonizer. It saves you a lot of conversion work as well, as the default suc model is already properly equipped.

Wyches with an agonizer wielding succubus are great for wearing down wraithlords and big bugs...