Armored Company?

well, I've played a few 100 point ac games, and one game against a 2000 point armored company, here's a few things to keep in mind.

The doctrines available to them are awesome, but can seriously cut back on tanks that you need. Being able to only take tanks is very awkward, because you'll find an irritating amount of infantry surviving the move across no man's land and trying to assault your armor. It's a fundamentally unbalanced list in the sense that it excels at killing characters or hard to kill units, but cheap hoardes will give you a real headache. Also, if anybody plays you they'll arm themselves to the teeth with anti-armor weapons, so be very wary of bikes with meltabombs, assault marines, ork buggies with twin linked rokkits, etc.

Playing as an armored company you'll soon learn just how easy it can be to pop a 'russ. And much to my surprise when I play I find more often then not that that I'm unloading all of my guns instead of ordinance, (all of my russes have 2 heavy bolters, 1 lascannon, and a pintle mounted heavy stubber, making a total of 10 shots per turn, if you were to use a Leman Russ exterminator then you get yet another shot, with an autocannon rerolling misses, so for your BS4 tanks it's a good option) That having been said I like armored company but prefer normal guard, because they're a lot more resilient (somehow) but when I'm too lazy to set up platoon after platoon, I find that playing an armored company is much easier for movement and shooting purposes :yes:

everyone has good points. here's my opinion. maybe repeating a couple times....

>Leman Russ
>Leman Russ Exterminator much better than the conqueror and cheaper base point cost. better AP than conqueror and you get two shots and you can choose to use the twin linked ability once per game.. the SMALL Blast on the conqueror hmmm... most players don't constantly have members of a squad close enough together to get more than two solid hits on that template.
>Leman Russ with Anti-Tank Rounds doctrine (cheaper than vanquisher and same effect with normal battle cannon range)
>Chimera with storm trooper/kasrkin squad.. i find throwing in something that gives me a good amount of models for the points helps me be able to flank an enemy/take an objective or take advantage of someone going all out on my main battle tanks. i almost always give my kasrkins in armoured company(if i use them) 2 plasma guns per squad >Side Skirts doctrine for some vehicles if facing "shooty" enemy with weaker than lascannon weapons
>Evasive Driving Doctrine seems to work well against my tyranid buddy because eventually he's going to get into assaulting my vehicles
>Ace Gunners Doctrine like sharpshooters but can be applied to any tank regardless of BS. it's nice on a demolisher or a tank ace


stuff i don't like about armoured company...
>Leman Russ Conqueror i just don't see it being worth the points compared to exterminator
>Destroyer Tank Hunter doesn't use any template can only hit one target at a time... it is really nice but a bit too specialized for my liking. antitank rounds can do much more damage on a tank which is more versatile.
>Improved Sponsons doctrine. I'd rather use the points to get the extra evasive driving points or something else. i guess it would be an OK idea to use this doctrine on maybe the HQ tank or Tank Ace(s)
>Crush and Grind Doctrine. this is iffy. shock the unit and get free hits on them before the shock is resolved. OK but probably going to get you closer to enemies who are good at opening cans with scything talons, meltabombs, pure strength... especially closer to side and rear armour. the one time i used this doctrine i only applied it to a few vehicles i knew I'd be throwing right into the enemy. i like evasive driving better since you can shoot on the move and as long as you moved a little you get a chance to hit all the assaulting models that get into close combat,

Stratassj said:

I was wondering if anyone here plays/plays against armored companys on a regular basis? Im thinking of starting one up and want to know how they play, What i should get to start it off?

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I don't play AC a lot because it does tend to be a bit "cheesy" and either one of two things happen usually: Either my opponent is caught by surprise and gets totally wacked or they have so much Anti-Armor that the opposite occurs.

Also, given the new rules, I would not field an AC unless you were at 2,000+ pts (maybe 1750) because the tanks just get too expensive.

For a core units, I would invest in the following as starters:

- 3 Leman Russ
- 2 Basilisks
- 1 Demolisher
- 1 Chimera + 1 Techpriest + 4 tech servitors

1 LR will be your HQ, 2 will be your troops, the Demolisher and Basilisk your Heavy Support, and the Chimera group to repair vehicles. Eventually I would recommend more tanks. 1 more Elite and 2 more troops of your flavor.

The Demolisher is useful because it is the only tank in the lot which has AP2 and gives insurance against Termies or other 2+ armored foes.

As for doctrines the following are MUST HAVES for every tank.
- Ace gunner
- Side Skirts
- Tech priest (not for the tank itself but so you can take one)

The ace gunner essentially allows any Ordnance shot to have a 55% chance of hitting on the nose, including the indirect fire basilisk. Side skirts give side armor of 13 to the LR. Your Basilisks dont need the skirts.

A few other doctrines which might be useful:
- Evasive driving
- Anti-Tank shells
- Machine God's Blessing (The ultimate anti-Eldar upgrade)
- Ceramite Armor (since many armies have some form of melta or multimelta)