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Hi!

One of my friends is planning to start playing Eldar Biel-Tan. Is the list he has made competitive (as a starting list, he will grow it to 1500 pts in time)? Any advice is welcome!

HQ
Farseer (1)
* Guide & Mindwar
* Spirit Stones
* Singing Spear

ELITE
Vyper (1)
* Bright Lance

TROOPS
Warp Spiders (6)
Howling Banshees (6) - - Transported in Falcon
* Incl. Exarch with Executioner
Fire Dragons (6)
Dark Reapers (3)

HEAVY SUPPORT
Support Weapon Battery (1)
* D-Cannon
Falcon (1) - - Transport for the Howling Banshees
* Starcannon
* Spirit Stone
* Holofield
Wraithlord (1)
* Starcannon

The list should be exactly 1000 points. The main opponents are Space Marines, Iron Warriors (thats me! :w00t: ) and Necrons...Many T4/3+ save units....
 

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HQ
Farseer (1)
* Guide & Mindwar
* Spirit Stones
* Singing Spear
I would take off Mindwar and Spirit Stones and Singing Spear and put these with the Dark Reapers or take off Guide and add a Jetbike and have him do hit and run, using the mind war against troops and singing spear against armoured vehicles.

Vyper (1)
* Bright Lance
Change the Bright Lance to a Starcannon. With the Brightlance and the low BS skill it will miss all the time, so a multi shot weapon is better.

Warp Spiders (6)
Howling Banshees (6) - - Transported in Falcon
* Incl. Exarch with Executioner
Fire Dragons (6)
Dark Reapers (3)
Take out the Dark Reapers and beaf up those Warp Spiders.

Put the Fire Dragons in the Falcon instead of the Banshees and get the Banshees a Wave Serpant. When working up to 1500 points a squad of scorps with exarch and stealth and scorps claw would be good.

Support Weapon Battery (1)
* D-Cannon
I usually don't use these but if he wants it can work well.

Wraithlord (1)
* Starcannon
Give this Brightlance because you need more anti tank and the Wraithlord has a good BS.

~Ben
 

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Good work, IAmAngel!

I am not sure that my friend will drop those Dark Reapers though - he loves the models and all of us SM/CSM/Necron players are afraid of them (6 S5/AP3 shots/turn - "Guided" by a Farseer...) - if he gets them into cover in a bunker or similar, they can eat T4/3+ models for breakfast!

I am sure that my friend will consider all other changes that you recommend though!!
 

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Kashug the Destroyer said:
Farseer (1)
* Guide & Mindwar
* Spirit Stones
* Singing Spear
-If you want a Farseer to have a Singing Spear, he needs mobility to use it, like a Jet Bike.
-Or if you want him Guiding a certain unit, drop the Mindwar, its short range won't help when Guiding heavy weapons. Which also means, drop the Spirit Stones.

Kashug the Destroyer said:
Vyper (1)
* Bright Lance
-With low BS, opt for a multi shot weapon, I'd prefer a Starcannon.

Kashug the Destroyer said:
Warp Spiders (6)
-Nice mobile harassment unit. But I find these guys need lots of room to do what they need to do.

Kashug the Destroyer said:
Howling Banshees (6) - - Transported in Falcon
* Incl. Exarch with Executioner
-This unit is a little small but if a Falcon is your only transport, go for it.

Kashug the Destroyer said:
Fire Dragons (6)
-These guys will die quickly if they are on foot.

Kashug the Destroyer said:
Dark Reapers (3)
-Nice, these drop SM/CSM quickly.
-Make sure to get these guys in cover.

Kashug the Destroyer said:
Support Weapon Battery (1)
* D-Cannon
-NO..no no no. With thier short range, they will be out gunned with any heavy weapons.

Kashug the Destroyer said:
Falcon (1) - - Transport for the Howling Banshees
* Starcannon
* Spirit Stone
* Holofield
-Very nice, its the hardest tank to kill in the game.

Kashug the Destroyer said:
Wraithlord (1)
* Starcannon
-Very nice. Since he has high BS, possibly give him a Bright Lance.

Just a few things I'd change. Drop the D-Cannon and Warp Spiders to get a Wave Serpent for your Banshees and put the Fire Dragons in the Falcon.

Other than that, its a really good start.
 
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