Choasy Ulthwe Eldar Fluff...Cheepo

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Pancakes

Discussion Starter · Jan 26, 2006

History: Siana was a once fledgling Warlock of Craftworld Ulthwe before one of the Crafworld’s Farseer’s met a squishy demise at the hands of Chaos Lord on Acharius Prime. The Seer Council promoted Siana to a Farseer after the Craftworld Siana proved herself. The Seer Council saw much potential in Siana’s power so they gave her a detachment of troops and sent her on a mission to recapture an important Warlock’s Soulstone. While trying to attain the Soulstone Siana made many bad judgments on the way there, by the time Siana’s force made to the Soulstone over a third of the original detachment was dead. After returning to the Seer Council Siana was forced to give up her status of a Farseer and was banned form the Craftworld. Upon leaving much of her old force left with her feeling angered at the Seer Council for many different reasons (Politics, personal feeling etc.)

What happened next?: Siana’s force chased after the Ruinous Powers of Chaos and tracked down many Chaos artifacts including a Chaos Sorcerer’s staff. (No don’t use it! ...Well maybe just one…) After obtaining a staff Siana dived farther into the Eye of Terror to prove to the Council that she was powerful.

What kind of crap was that?: It is rumored that Siana is able to use psychic powers normally only available to Chaos. And it is also rumored Siana has used demons to assist her in battle. The Seer Council has labeled Siana was a heretic and traitor…Sound like fun.

Fisrt try with fluff...

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neosonichdghg

· #2 · Jan 26, 2006

hmm...

Sounds like a good start, actually. But you need some justification. What exactly is the Chaos connection? To what extent was the Seer corrupted? Most importantly, at what point? I mean, if she was corrupted in the Eye you have problems with her just becoming a nameless daemon. But who was she fighting for the soulstone? If she was taking it from a Chaos force, they could have begun to influence her. It would make her overreaction more understandable and would also explain her affinity for Chaos artifacts. Long slippery slope and all that.

Xerxes

· #3 · Jan 26, 2006

Plus the fact that, at least recently, Farseers have been identified as being the exarchs of the Path of the Seer. It's not like a job you can get fired from, it's a path you get locked to for the rest of your existence because your mind doesn't bend any other way any more.

Visitor Q

· #4 · Jan 26, 2006

Could be that even though she was locked to the path she was still exiled. In fact her obbsession to the path could be the metaphorical weakness that the powers of choas were able to exploit.

Are we talking a one off character here or has her whole force turned to choas?

Pancakes

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jan 26, 2006

Hehe...well not all of her force was turned to chaos and not all of her force knows about her corruption :shifty:

The_Giant_Mantis

· #6 · Jan 27, 2006 (Edited)

I'm not 100 percent adverse to the idea of chaos eldar, but I think they need more explanation than this. I mean, to me, an eldar trying to turn to chaos might go something like this.

Farseer: 'I have decided to serve you, my dark master!'
Slannesh: 'Very good, I like servants. Do you swear eternal fealty to my will?'
Farseer: 'Of course I do.. I shall be very very naughty for all eternity.'
Slannesh: 'Good.. here is your first task. Remove your soulstone, and those of your followers.'
Farseer: 'Yes, my master!'
*sound of screaming and flesh withering to dust*
Slannesh: 'Tasty.. I like snacks.'

The problem being, an eldar soul isn't much of a bargaining chip. Slannesh already owns it, so you can't exactly sell your soul for power. There needs to be a real, legitimate reason why an eldar would be useful enough to slannesh for her to hold back her eternal, all consuming thirst. Even then, it seems it would be more like slavery than mere servitude. Every second would have to be spent pleasing Slannesh enough that she didn't get bored and decide you might taste better than you serve.

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Pancakes

Discussion Starter · #7 · Jan 27, 2006

Shes not really taking orders form the BIG gods and shes just choasy not choas

neosonichdghg

· #8 · Jan 27, 2006

whaaa?

Are we talking Chaos or renegade?

Xerxes

· #9 · Jan 27, 2006

Berny Mac said:
In fact her obbsession to the path could be the metaphorical weakness that the powers of choas were able to exploit.

In that case, every Eldar farseer is just as vulnerable to Chaos, which I don't see happening.

Visitor Q

· #10 · Jan 27, 2006

Every eldar farseer IS vulnerbale to choas but most can resist its call, they must otherwise there entire race is doomed. In fact as has been implied Slaneesh already has claim the souls of the eldar.

Remember it was the eldar that called Slaneesh into being in the first place.

Anyway prehaps The farseer has pledged her soul to choas Undivided as a (prehaps deluded) attempt to deny Slannesh his (her, its?) prize.

The_Giant_Mantis

· #11 · Jan 27, 2006 (Edited)

Berny Mac said:
Anyway prehaps The farseer has pledged her soul to choas Undivided as a (prehaps deluded) attempt to deny Slannesh his (her, its?) prize.

I still think it's a bit wierd, after all, you're not actually offering anything to chaos because one of the chaos gods already owns you body and soul. Maybe if she had, for example, tricked and betrayed a big group of eldar into getting munched by Slannesh, and promised to bring more, that would be considered worthwhile..

Yes, that has a nice tone to it actually.. I'd suggest doing that.

I mean, if you don't like the idea of a character who does horrible things, why do chaos eldar in the first place.

I seem to remember hearing that, at one point, GW were going to do chaos eldar, basically those survivors who had been left behind on the crone worlds, and had not managed to flee the eye of terror with the dark eldar. But they would probably be insane, mutated beyond recognition and no longer recognizable as members of a proud and ancient race.

Pancakes

Discussion Starter · #12 · Jan 28, 2006

Fie fine fine..not Choas Eldar but Evil Eldar..not Dark Eldar!

Plague_00

· #13 · Jan 28, 2006

look screw the fluff purests it is entirly plausible that any eldar ulthwe' or otherwise could strike a deal with slaanesh, it all comes down to is the spiritstones they deny slaanesh the eldars soul after they die but if slaanesh managed to convince a farseer that if he or she worshipped him/she/it then they would spend eternity not writhing in pain but basking in slaanesh's glory or love then of course theyed consider it, eldar are not grey knights and are corruptible.

my own fluff is a craftworld (of my own creation) is at panic point it's population is soo low they can barely manage to pull together a fighting force and thus struck a deal with slaanesh, in return for slaanesh sending warriors to help (mostly daemonettes converted so they look like they are wearing banshee armour and cultist rangers) they will recognize slaanesh as their true deity and will willingly go to war in his/her/it's name even against other craftworlds, as a added bonus when my eldar die they get to spend eternity serving slaanesh rather than being served to slaanesh.

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Visitor Q

· #14 · Jan 28, 2006

Plague_00 said:
look screw the fluff purests it is entirly plausible that any eldar ulthwe' or otherwise could strike a deal with slaanesh, it all comes down to is the spiritstones they deny slaanesh the eldars soul after they die but if slaanesh managed to convince a farseer that if he or she worshipped him/she/it then they would spend eternity not writhing in pain but basking in slaanesh's glory or love then of course theyed consider it, eldar are not grey knights and are corruptible.

my own fluff is a craftworld (of my own creation) is at panic point it's population is soo low they can barely manage to pull together a fighting force and thus struck a deal with slaanesh, in return for slaanesh sending warriors to help (mostly daemonettes converted so they look like they are wearing banshee armour and cultist rangers) they will recognize slaanesh as their true deity and will willingly go to war in his/her/it's name even against other craftworlds, as a added bonus when my eldar die they get to spend eternity serving slaanesh rather than being served to slaanesh.

I like that idea plus if they attack alot of other eldar craftworlds then every one the kill means another soul for slaneesh hence why slaneesh would be prepared to make a deal.

Any way Slaneesh might take a perverse pleasure in watching an eldar farseer trying to squirm his way out of giving up his soul, be willing to accept him as a worshiper for the aforementioned deal and then of course break it.

Plague_00

· #15 · Jan 28, 2006

no one is saying that slaanesh wouldn't break a deal of course she/he/it will, that's the way of chaos i mean it's like saying that tzeentch won't turn on arhiman when his usefulness ends.

but slaanesh would make a deal with any eldar and wouldn't jus kill him when he takes his stone off but use him until he becomes redundent and then turn him into hamburgers

The_Giant_Mantis

· #16 · Jan 28, 2006 (Edited)

Plague_00 said:
look screw the fluff purests it is entirly plausible that any eldar ulthwe' or otherwise could strike a deal with slaanesh.

I'll agree it's possible, plausable outside of a specific situation is another matter entirely..

Eldar can fall to chaos, but it needs to be justified somehow. In the 40k setting, eldar hate and fear chaos. Therefore, since you're writing fluff in the 40k setting, you need to come up with a reason why eldar, who hate and fear chaos, are going to start worshipping it. You also need to come up with a method by which that is possible.

Not impossible, not even particularly difficult.. Your own fluff does it quite well.

EDIT: Realised this could sound offensive.. Didn't mean it to. Certain lines have been changed.

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