Concept of army strategy

OK please dont take this the wrong way, but you seem to be failing to master the troops which should be the core of your army, scout snipers are not that good, they have a single use - take down high T monsters - greater demons, avatars, wraithlords, even C'Tan, beyond that they just dont cut it as fire support against anything with a decent save and are too expensive against troops that dont have a decent save.

I think you need to master how to use your troops, in a tourney, your troops need to make up 40%+ of your points total to take advantage of composition points.

For an assault army, you have a couple of options, you can use scouts squads to support the attack, infiltrate them, take them with BP and CCW and give the vet sgt a power fists and you have a very effective assault squad

Tac squads can also be use to support assaults, either in rhinos or by foot slogging, however my preference would be to use tac squads to provide fire support, for arnti troop - plasma cannon and plasma gun, for anti tank, las cannons or ML and plasma guns, you can also mount them in a razor to give you pretty good anti tank, personnaly would switch the dev squad for this

Well, thanks for reply, but i dont think you are right with CC scouts. I use my two squads of sniper scouts almost in every battle and never (!) failed me. (well, in one of my early games they failed, but they had only SR+HB and stood against dreadnought.

Static scouts could infiltrate into heavy cover, that makes their save to 4+(I) against almost every weapon except heavy flamer. Even if terrain are bad placed, long range of SR and ML grant chance to shoot cross table and support other wing.

SR+ML is perfect against wraithlord (Damm edars:-/), could easily pin down firewarriors (Mobile tau are bit problem for my army) and is usable against ligt vehicles (one local orc player hates me for this ;-) and this is infiltrating scoring unit for only 95 points.

I see 2 big problems with CC souts
1. They have to be in 10 man unit, so it si difficult to infiltrate them right against clever opponent, especially when you have other CC units prepared to infiltrate
2. They need to run out of cover for charge, so they stay at least one turn in rapid fire range and their save is not enough to survive this.


Sorry but I dont understand this....is this any special rule for tournament or what??
"I think you need to master how to use your troops, in a tourney, your troops need to make up 40%+ of your points total to take advantage of composition points."


That idea with that las+plas in razorback well, i tried it once, and my oppinion is that rhino and razorback are vehicles for first turn only, if you dont play lots of them. Very fargile and if they start in LOS of heavy weapon they could die even on 1st turn :-(

I used to play two Las+plas instead of that devastators, but plasma gun has shorter range and two small squads are more fragile to assault than one big :-(