Da Mighty Camel said:
Tarzen: Do you seriously ever play for fun? It sounds to me that you need to maximize your lists so they have an almost 100% chance to win.
Well, fielding 100 guardians in a 2000pt list isn't going to be overly competative. And yet, I used to use nothing less. These days I'm trying out more of a bieltan theme with around 40-60 guardians. Most of my lists allow me to have a sliver of a chance to win, but each and every one is enjoyable. Oh, and I do like to win, everyone I know does, it's ingrained into our culture. That said, I don't play to win, I play to play.
If someone wants to use Shining Spears or Jetbikes or something 'cus they think they are cool or fun to use then let them.
and that's exactly what my last post said, wasn't it?
Just like when I make suggestions to someones army list... "these are my suggestions, you may choose to incorporate what you will, based on your playstyle". I know that most people shun huge guardian squads, but I love them. But then again, I also field 80+ marines in a 1500 pt army. To me, I'd rather use sheer numbers, and yet the idea of IG doesn't appeal-go figure huh? Most armies are designed around play styles. To me, the sit back and shoot idea isn't fun, thus I rush with all my guardians, supported by a wraithlord or 2, or an avatar. Yes, my squads shouldn't win in hth, and yet my guardians rarely do. They've torn down nids by the dozen, good rolling, and knowing how to choose battles, and supporting my units goes a long way.
And I know you are just giving them good advice and all, but it really sounds that you think all their thoughts are wrong and must be corrected.
No, just pointing out both sides of the coin. Like the whole idea that banshees are better. Right now, there is one thing, and one thing only that they excel at, and that's termies. Other than that, scorps are better in nearly every single way. Just like the Wave serpents rock thread. Sure, they are our only large squad transport, but other armies generally have it better. Am I complaining, now, just pointing out the facts. As to correcting, I probably do come across that way, my personality I suppose. But much like everything on the forums, everyone should know to take it with a grain of salt. But to say that guardian jetbikes have a better weapons list than SM bikes isn't true, and should be "corrected", similar to the rhino can pop smoke, and ignore shaken thread.
Don't take this as an insult or something, just an observers comment.
Not an insult in any way, I understand. I appreciate the comment, will try and consider it for other posts, but when you get old, it's hard to change your ways. Also, time on the forums tends to make me a bit gruff when it comes to answering rules questions.
All that said, feel free to play them. I have. With a singing spear they are able to kill vehicles and troops, but there range is certainly a hinderance. Now, if GW dropped their points to 28, and gave them hit and run, hey, we're in business.
