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Ogre Tyrant
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Preface: I think this is the right place to ask this - if it devolves into modelling, painting, etc etc then feel free to move it mods.


Hey guys, going through a tough time right now and I had a good idea to take my mind of things - start a new little project! Unfortunately I'm struggling to come up with any inspiration on anything at all to get started on, so I thought i'd throw open the floor to LO's infinite wisdom and see what ideas people could come up with!

Basically I'm looking for a project that meets the parameters of:

Either 40k or fantasy
Not a full army but preferably more than one model, maybe a group or something.
Budget of anything up to £100 I guess, its not about the worth of it though - more about the funness/distraction.

Rep and eternal gratitude to the best suggestions!
 

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Well, you could actually put together a small GK army for that price. I mean, it wouldn't be the most competitive thing in the world, but something like a DraigoWing at 1250-1500pts wouldn't be half bad on the table or your wallet, and with it being the basic 40k "hero hammer" list, you'd be able to take the mind-numbing time to make each guy look unique.

Trust me- I feel you. I'm sitting down to paint until my eyes get so heavy that I pass out in bed. I figure it's better than drinking eh?
 

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Well it wasn't so much that I wanted an army to do, I have 2k points of wood elves and a 2k deathwing army both to paint... just something new to take my mind off things the next few days.
I just can't seem to come up with any ideas in my head, its just full of cheating women... might as well be reading some black library book about dark elves!

Its a shame the ogre kingdoms thundertusk isn't out yet as i'd really like to have a go at one of those.
What is the bloodcrusher box like? I thought about having a unit of a lord and two heros on juggernaughts leading a massive pack of chaos hounds as ablative armour for my WoC army perhaps?
Or, if you were to make an imperial fists 1st company veteran-like dreadnought... like really pushing the boat out, what would you build it like? For pure looks rather than wysiwyg with the best weapons for games.
 

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Man, I feel like we should swap a pint and share horrid women stories. I mean seriously, I've got friends trying to tell me that my last ex was worst than theirs, and I just got the boot again tonight. At least yours gave you a reason to hate her. Mine pulled the whole "maybe someday down the road" - tentative scheduling is next January, but goddamn if I'm spending any winter nights alone.

But anyways, here's your pint::beer: now to business,
The blood crusher is pretty much three standard Juggerauts- they come in two halves (left and right) basically, with specific legs for each, and the only real "options" are the heads. They're pretty solid too, so they're horrible for trying to convert. Fortunately, I got Chaos Knights onto mine without needing any GS at all, although if you wanted to fill the tiniest of gaps before base coating, you could use a touch of putty.
Typically JuggEx's aren't as good as a regular Exalted on a Horse, but in a unit of hounds they might not do too bad, just realize that the enemy is going to maul the hounds pretty quick and win combat. I currently run 2 JuggExes with ASF and 11 attacks between them, in a block of 8 Knights for a 6x2 formation. Works fine for me.

1st Co. ImpFist Dread? Hmm... I'd probably go with the Venerable kit because I want actual hands on it (can't be an Imperial Fist without a Fist can it) and then undersling an Autocannon on one arm. Then lots of good ol' reposing of the legs and such, and maybe give him actual feet instead of the crazy 3-4 pronged toes. If you wanted to go nuts, try to bitz order one of the pilots from a DreadKnight and stick him in the chest - make it look like something blew open the chest of the dread and exposed the marine strapped inside all angry and wired up while he kicks butt.
I used some Warmachine bits on a Dread and built a tower shield out of a Rhino hatch for my IronClad back when I played 40k, so he's got hands with a shield and spear, and then I sculpted gold flame detailing around his shin guards, hung some dragon pelts over his shoulder, and used the usual dread claw-tip to make a sort of 'crown' on his head, filled it with more GS fire, had flames coming out of his stacks like censers, and then mounted a banner on his back. A lot of people mistake him for a Dread Librarian or Dread Chaplain. He looks pretty cool though, I must say.
 

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That dread sounds awesome!

I've decided to head off to the seaside for the weekend to get away, and there's no internet or phone signal there which is probably a good thing. I'll write a full reply to this thread when I return on sunday - until then captain, thankyou and may fortune favour you or some other such elvish thoughts :) haha.
 

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Wish i had the courage to go into painting when i have rough times(the last year till today is full of them).

But what i did a couple of days ago is build up a deathwatch kill team.Its still half finished but who knows?
So perhaps that might be a good idea for a project?
 

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Kill teams are fantastic fun as a little project. If you still have a copy of the 4th ed rulebook (unfortunately killteams got neutered with 5th ed) look at the Kill Team section, there's loads of little tips and rules there for a 10-man or so group of what are meant to be like kamikaze elites, the kind that you get in cheesy films that are put together from the seediest characters around and then given a briefing not expected to be seen again. There's loads of stuff about giving each one its own individual personality and look, and each having their own defined role. It's a great excuse to forget about stuff, I did my Eldar Pirate killteam when I was having a difficult time and it was a fantastic getaway point ^^ If you don't have a 4th ed rulebook, there's probably something on the Internet about it. Just a thought from my own experience :)

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The good thingie with a deathwatch kill team is that it can be used with a regular(codex) army as a sternguard veteran team as well.The rules are almost the same with the old ones .
 

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True, but you don't have quite the same room for customisation when it's just a bunch of Space Marines.

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Anyone who misses Kill Team, should check out these rules a wrote a few years back.
http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/rules-development/126010-40k-gears-war-skirmish.html#post1174514
It's based on Gears of War, and Unreal Tournament type multiplayer games, and a lot of the people who've gotten behind it at my local say that it reminds them of 2nd edition 40k- back in it's hayday. There are some definite changes to the rules, it's not Killteam, but it's the same premise of building a small collection of very cool looking models, rather than an entire army. It takes about as long as a 40k game, and it's more balanced than kill team (where the KT player is usually doomed to failure).

We played a lot of variations of this game - from standard pitched battles, to Capture the Flag, Bomb-delivery type mission, to a really cool minigame that pits Vindicare Assassins against the members of the kill teams. For that one, you get one 150pt team per sniper. Each sniper then places 3 markers on the table, 1 bomb and 2 dummies. The mission of the team is to locate and neutralize the bomb, then kill the snipers. The sniper's mission is to see that the bomb goes off successfully on Turn 6 (this happens automatically) and then escapes off the board edge by turn 9. The only extra special rules for this variation:
1: If the sniper wounds a model, every friendly model within 6" has to test for pinning- if the test is failed, the model runs Movement + D6 towards the nearest piece of cover and conforms to it, losing 1 action point from their next turn.

2: As snipers (or whatever you use as the defenders) have had time to work their way forward and conceal themselves amongst the terrain, enemy squads firing on a sniper in cover must first check if they can spot him. Roll exactly as you would for spotting an enemy during Night Fight. Ignore this rule if the sniper fires more than one shot during his turn.
 

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it's not exactly fantasy, but if you're interested in making a group of models, you could try out blood bowl and make a team for it, its a very fun and balanced system (though it'll depend on if there's a league or other BB players in your area).

the actual team kits are rather old (though the human and dwarf team still look good) but there's plenty of opportunities in the fantasy range to make your own conversions for your team, generally only needing 11-14 models regardless of which team you chose (there's a team for just about every fantasy race). so depending on your pace, it's good for 1-4 weeks of distraction, before including playing games (leagues tend to last 3-4 months).
 

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I like the kill team idea that was suggested, but seeing as i'm painting terminators, terminators and more terminators for my imperial fists 1st company (deathwing) army more space marines don't look too appealing right now. But I'll definitely bear that in mind for next time (not that I hope there will be!)

I have a couple of bloodbowl teams (chaos and high elf) but I haven't been able to find anyone to play against yet which is a shame. I played alot on fumbbl and the bloodbowl video game but haven't for a year or so as no-one else seems to be interested. I play american football in England myself, so I guess I'm a bit of a nutjob :D

I heard that ogres were getting redone in a month or so, so I ended up packing up the battleforce of ogres that I bought when they were first released and taking them off to the seaside for a long weekend with the family so I'd have something already done for when the new models came out so I could buy and paint the cool things then rather than blocks of bulls. Unfortunately windsurfing and building epic fortresses on the beach took up a fair amount of time, but I did manage to get a few done. I'd show some pictures now but my camera is charging - I'll take some tomorrow. (although be warned, I suck at painting for someone thats been a hobbyist for a decade! :D)
 

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Paint some iron warriors and place them on those fortresses you make on the beach!Theyll have serious remarks for the fortifications though!Be prepeared!
 

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Paint some iron warriors and place them on those fortresses you make on the beach!Theyll have serious remarks for the fortifications though!Be prepeared!
I did actually have a thought... I should ask my university gaming club (of which I was the founder, haha arent I smug :D) if we can take a trip to the seaside. Build a castle as soon as the tide goes out and play a mega fantasy battle/planetstrike game with the only end game factor being utter destruction or the time limit of the sea coming back in. What do you guys think?
 

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yea about the blood bowl, luckily there's a league here that kicks up everytime football season comes around so it's good for 4 months out of most every year. but i understand the whole not having anyone to play with, its what happened to my lotr army.

as for the beach... would be iffy at the prospect of the tide coming in and claiming some of my models if the game and clean-up weren't done quick enough, and having to clean sand off and out of everything because it does just get everywhere.
 

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Although I'm moving into a house for the next uni year with 5 people from the warhammer group, so I may be able to convince som of them to play! Yes... a 6 man house full of models, video games and pizza :D

On the theme of sand for castles... how about using a (large) sandbox in the garden?
 

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a sandbox is definitely a decent idea for a battle, my old unit used to use one all the time for wargame scenarios back before deployment, but should work just as well for 40k. and i guess anything more complicated than a sandbox in the garden and it'd probably just be easier to build a gaming table. only factors you need to worry about otherwise is whether to cover up the sandbox when not in use and how much you mind hunching over on the ground when you play (may factor in more when you need to lean over to reach across the battlefield).
 

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I guess hunching over the battlefield may be solved by either building legs for the sandbox, or by putting it on a garden table. I don't think covering it would be a problem - most plastic sandboxes i've seen come with lids.

I was just thinking it'd be way easier to build a sand castle for fantasy siege or an iron warriors fortress or something out of sand to play on than building one out of wood, plastic etc and then there's the added benefit of not having to worry too much about storage and always being able to change the battlefield you play on. For getting sand of models, would a hairdryer affect the paint/model?

In addition to the cheating issue I was dealing with before, I found out this morning that I've been laid off from work.... Double nuts :( But hey, more time for ogres/terminators/woodelves - something else? Any more suggestions appreciated :)
 

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The heat might mess things up, what you're going to have to worry about more though is how abrasive the sand can be. If you build a map, I also suggest a cross between the two - build it up somewhat like the sand tables that the military used to use for making 3d models of the battlefield. Of course, 40k isn't really all that much for "rolling topography", since you usually want the edges of your hills clearly defined and the small area that the battles are fought on usually don't have many hills in the first place, but hey - it would a least look really cool. Then all you would need are some unbased buildings and trees etc that you could stick down into the sand. I'd go with a desert theme unless you feel like finding/making green sand (yes, there are ways)

Not to be unnerdy or smack around the obvious, but you can always hit the bar/pub. Gotta stay social and whatnot, or you risk bottling everything and hiding yourself away for a long time. Then again, hitting the pub with a heartbreak usually ends with liver failure. Hmm... stick to wargaming. It's healthier, studies haven't indicated that it'll kill you or anything.
 
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