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One thousand years ago there was a great war VS the Space marines and the Tyranids in the middle of space. Hive Fleet Kraken's forgotten tendril was in a massive space battle. Thousands of Space Marine Strike Cruiser and Space Marine Hunter Class Destroyers VS the massive force of hundreds of Kraken's Hive ship and Kraken's Stalker Drones were facing it off. The prize for the Tyranids was the bio-Mass of the luscious planets they were next to. The prize for the Space Marines, Experience and the grace from the Emperor. The Space Battle raged on for 2 years but in the end the Space marines fled with just their lives to spare whilst the Kraken fleet moved towards the galaxy they left a hive ship for blowing up one of their own in battle. Being cut of from all hive mind activity

The Hive ship lay the in the void un-touched for a 9 hundred year. Nothing was happening in the mind of this ship. Thousands of creatures lay in the hive ship awaiting orders but nothing came. But for this last hive ship a volt of life sprang through the ship as if it were alive again. The creatures started to move as if new orders came to them and a single hive Tyrant walked to the middle of the ship as massive tubes surrounded it creating the norm queen. Still the kraken fleet but the ship felt betrayed so it hung over a planet that the space marines have abandoned and left some organisms on the surface. The Hive ship made all the creatures go to the ground and search for any type of hostility but found none. The creatures started to harvest the bio-mass and found a single organism that would change not only the color but the thinking of the hive all together. It was a cobra. But the hive mind did not under stand the know-how of a single creature much like its own so it kept it alive.

One Hundred years later the hive mind figured out what the use of the tiny organisms body and dust but found the color it need to brake off from the Kraken color to make it’s self its own. The creatures were given the lightning fast strike of a cobra and the terminal vision to find the enemies for the great Hive mind. It classified the tiny organisms as a cobra in the English words it had sucked in from the time it was with the kraken fleet. It also gave its self a new color green like the cobra., Red like the planet and blue stripes like the ultra marines it almost help be victorious. The single hive fleet gave the creatures a different look of color so it gave its own body a different look. Now the fleet is well on its way creating creatures that weren’t in the hive fleet before.
 

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One thousand years ago there was a great war VS the Space marines and the Tyranids
The first Tyranids only showed up 250 years ago.

Hive Fleet Kraken's forgotten tendril was in a massive space battle
I could be wrong here but wasn't it Leviathan that had a forgotten tendril?

Thousands of Space Marine Strike Cruiser and Space Marine Hunter Class Destroyers VS the massive force of hundreds of Kraken's Hive ship and Kraken's Stalker Drones
That seems an awful lot of space marines to me, I don't think there are any chapters that have that many ships (well BT maybe).

the Kraken fleet moved towards the galaxy they left a hive ship for blowing up one of their own in battle. Being cut of from all hive mind activity
Nids just wouldn't do that, sorry. If they were going to do something to it they'd consume, but I doubt theyd do that. The hive ships aren't seperate entities to be punished. The hive mind would simply say to itself "whoops hurt myself there, better be more careful next time".

But for this last hive ship a volt of life sprang through the ship as if it were alive again.
How?

a single hive Tyrant walked to the middle of the ship as massive tubes surrounded it creating the norm queen.
I think all hive ships always have a norn queen, they're kinda part of the ship.

But the hive mind did not under stand the know-how of a single creature much like its own so it kept it alive.
I'm not sure I know what you mean here. If its that the hive fleet didn't understand the cobra so kept it alive, again they wouldn't do that, they'd simply eat it and add any useful seeming DNA to a new type of organism.

to brake off from the Kraken color to make it’s self its own.
Again, doesn't happen. All Hive Fleets are controlled by the same Mind, the fact that 2 fleets are attcking the Imperium is kind of like you punching someone in the face and kicking them in the shins at the same time.

terminal vision
Terminal Vision?

It classified the tiny organisms as a cobra in the English words it had sucked in
2 things: firstly the Imperium speaks Gothic rather than English (it is 38,000 years from now after all) and secondly I doubt the Hive Mind bothers naming its creatures and if it did it wouldn't be in the language of its prey, all it does is feed remember.

This really needs quite a lot of work but I think your basic idea of a splinter fleet with snake like creatures is workable. Just not like this.
 

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Agreeing with pretty much everything the Monkey King said.. You have the seeds of a really good idea, but it just needs some slight pruning before it meshes with the existing fluff.

Remember that most forces in the Imperium are nothing to do with SM at all.. Use Imperial Navy ships if you want that massive engagement feel.

I am the Monkey King said:
I think all hive ships always have a norn queen, they're kinda part of the ship.
Also, Hive Tyrants and Norn queens are a seperate, though related species (hence one is anthromorphised as male and the other female.) A hive tyrant isn't going to evolve into anything else during its lifetime.
 

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Thanks a lot of that i dident know


The first Tyranids only showed up 250 years ago.
ok yeah it is in the codex but i wasent reading it...Thanks btw XD

I could be wrong here but wasn't it Leviathan that had a forgotten tendril?
about that....if hive fleet Leviathan had a "forgotten" tendril that it was talked about...it wasent realy forgotten....

That seems an awful lot of space marines to me, I don't think there are any chapters that have that many ships (well BT maybe).
Yeah i should cut back on that XD

Nids just wouldn't do that, sorry. If they were going to do something to it they'd consume, but I doubt theyd do that. The hive ships aren't seperate entities to be punished. The hive mind would simply say to itself "whoops hurt myself there, better be more careful next time".
I found that funn for some reason but thanks

But for this last hive ship a volt of life sprang through the ship as if it were alive again.
I don't know eather i just thought it would be a good idea.

I think all hive ships always have a norn queen, they're kinda part of the ship.
I thought there was only 1 Real norm queen per tyranid fleet but thanks:D

I'm not sure I know what you mean here. If its that the hive fleet didn't understand the cobra so kept it alive, again they wouldn't do that, they'd simply eat it and add any useful seeming DNA to a new type of organism.
Ok i dident realy mean to put that*cough* ahem i ment to put that the hive mind put it in a differnt bio-pool but that still wont make sense.

Again, doesn't happen. All Hive Fleets are controlled by the same Mind, the fact that 2 fleets are attcking the Imperium is kind of like you punching someone in the face and kicking them in the shins at the same time.
Right there i ment differnt color to make it "differnt" form kraken

Terminal Vision?
Yes so it can see people in the forest....unless all 'nids see like that

2 things: firstly the Imperium speaks Gothic rather than English (it is 38,000 years from now after all) and secondly I doubt the Hive Mind bothers naming its creatures and if it did it wouldn't be in the language of its prey, all it does is feed remember.
Wow...Thanks i Realy dident know that...but my hive fleet is still cobra...:p

This really needs quite a lot of work but I think your basic idea of a splinter fleet with snake like creatures is workable. Just not like this.
Thank you ill retry it later...:D

Anyway thank you for your posts and i hope you like that screwed up V. of the hive fleet thingy XD
 

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Let me try and be helpful.. Though if I fail in that, don't listen to me, it's your fluff, after all. ;)

Hive Fleet Cobra said:
about that....if hive fleet Leviathan had a "forgotten" tendril that it was talked about...it wasent realy forgotten....
Good logic there.. But I think it means 'relatively' forgotten. As in 'we knows its there, but it's not passing through any important worlds, and we can't afford the manpower to stop it, so let's cover out ears and hum and pretend it doesn't exist' forgotten. ;)

Hive Fleet Cobra said:
Ok i dident realy mean to put that*cough* ahem i ment to put that the hive mind put it in a differnt bio-pool but that still wont make sense.
Okay, here's how I'd do it..

The hive mind would kill the cobra sooner or later, no doubt about that.. If nothing else, it's going to eat the atmosphere, which means that even if the cobras still alive then its blood is going to boil out of its body anyway. ;) What I'd do is, rather than having simple 'earth style' cobras, have a 20 foot long monster cobra living on the planet, which, for the characteristics you've described, proves to be unusually difficult to hunt down and kill. When it finally manages it, the hive mind will reverse engineer its DNA, and, finding many useful properties, will add elements of it to it's own creatures, as you said. Thus, a new species of Nid-Cobra hybrids is born.

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Yes so it can see people in the forest....unless all 'nids see like that
I think the implication is that most tyranids, especially the enhanced senses versions, can see extremely well anyway (and some, like lictors and tyrant guard, don't need to see with their eyes at all.. they hunt with pheremones or through psychic links to other beasts.) doesn't mean the cobra won't give them useful properties. They could incorporate some of the thermal sensory organs which most snakes have, for example, and this would be a nice way of representing the enhanced senses. It also ties in with the cobra thing a bit.. you can have fast striking CC troops (give them extra initiative), and troops who sit back and 'spit' weapons fire at the enemy (with extra BS from the enhanced senses.) Very nice and themey, and it might be quite effective.

Hive Fleet Cobra said:
Wow...Thanks i Realy dident know that...but my hive fleet is still cobra...:p
Maybe after encountering these cobra-hybrids, the poor humans who had to go up against them are reminded of tales of the ancient Cobra of old Terra, and consequentially, the fleet acquires that nickname. The Monkey King is right in suggesting that the Hive Mind doesn't generally give names to bits of itself, it's more interested in killing and munching.

As I said, a very nice idea.. I'd just change it in a few ways. :)
 
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